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[Shiva]

Soon i will start a game with a human, elf, dwarf, gnome, halfling and half orc (the player .. no h-o in game far as I know.)

Firstly, my rep will inevitably go up, making korgan (the only wothwhile dwarf leave).

Are there any BP compatiable mods that keep them all together?


secondly, i found this in compatiabliy section
Alternate BG2 NPCs (changes the class of several Bioware NPCs) - C


Is this the bulder mod, where you drag and drop into ovveride?

Or is it another?


Thanks!

[Deva]

Ease of use has a happy party component. Keeps all party member's in, despite any rep. change. Hope that helps.

[jaegar]

Soon i will start a game with a human, elf, dwarf, gnome, halfling and half orc (the player .. no h-o in game far as I know.)

Firstly, my rep will inevitably go up, making korgan (the only wothwhile dwarf leave).

Are there any BP compatiable mods that keep them all together?


secondly, i found this in compatiabliy section
Alternate BG2 NPCs (changes the class of several Bioware NPCs) - C


Is this the bulder mod, where you drag and drop into ovveride?

Or is it another?


Thanks!

There's a 6th level priest spell called Conversion in BP (I'm pretty sure it's part of TDD) that change the alignment of target to either Lawful Good or Chaotic Evil. If by some reason you dont have any priest in the party there are green scrolls sold by the scroll lady in Adventure Mart. Keeps everyone the same alignment and they wont leave, heh.

Edited by jaegar, 04 November 2004 - 04:38 PM.

[Sir BillyBob]

Fix their alignment yes. However their dialog is still the same. A Lawful Good Korgan would just be too much with that blood thirsty dialog. It would be entertaining though...

[fallen_demon]

i also don't think they leave is your charisma is high enough, i think.

[Radagast-The-Brown]

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There's a 6th level priest spell called Conversion in BP (I'm pretty sure it's part of TDD) that change the alignment of target to either Lawful Good or Chaotic Evil. If by some reason you dont have any priest in the party there are green scrolls sold by the scroll lady in Adventure Mart. Keeps everyone the same alignment and they wont leave, heh.
[right][/right]

Actually this spell sucks most than any other spell I have known...this just isn't logical...there can't be a spell which messes up alignment its just an ULTRA lie!!! Anyone who knows the word "roleplaying" would never consider using such a cheesy spell which actually doesnt exist in any ad&d or d&d book...this spell just doesn't exist...it was the worst spell idea a modder ever had...whoever uses such tactics just isn't respecting ad&d or even himself..(or he is just a person who knows nothing about the word "roleplaying" or "ad&d")
(even a wish spell in ad&d isn't capable of changing a person's character or alignment...this just never happens...u r what u r)

[quote name='fallen_demon' date='Nov 4 2004, 10:04 PM']I also don't think they leave is your charisma is high enough, i think.
[right][/right][/quote]

Nope actually your charisma has nothing to do about the characters who leave when u have low or high reputation...

Edited by Radagast-The-Brown, 09 November 2004 - 02:54 PM.

[hlidskialf]

Actually this spell sucks most than any other spell I have known...this just isn't logical...there can't be a spell which messes up alignment its just an ULTRA lie!!! Anyone who knows the word "roleplaying" would never consider using such a cheesy spell which actually doesnt exist in any ad&d or d&d book...this spell just doesn't exist...it was the worst spell idea a modder ever had...whoever uses such tactics just isn't respecting ad&d or even himself..(or he is just a person who knows nothing about the word "roleplaying" or "ad&d")
(even a wish spell in ad&d isn't capable of changing a person's character or alignment...this just never happens...u r what u r)

*Inspired by a mischief-imp, hlid points out the cannon AD&D "Helm of Opposite Alignment" and other such items found in the game.* :nana:

[jaegar]

Actually this spell sucks most than any other spell I have known...this just isn't logical...there can't be a spell which messes up alignment its just an ULTRA lie!!! Anyone who knows the word "roleplaying" would never consider using such a cheesy spell which actually doesnt exist in any ad&d or d&d book...this spell just doesn't exist...it was the worst spell idea a modder ever had...whoever uses such tactics just isn't respecting ad&d or even himself..(or he is just a person who knows nothing about the word "roleplaying" or "ad&d")
(even a wish spell in ad&d isn't capable of changing a person's character or alignment...this just never happens...u r what u r)

Lol, how true. RP wise, I dont think any of the characters in DnD are supposed to be aware of their 'real' alignment (with the exeption of the extremes, baatezu and such). A paladin running around proclaiming he's "LAWFUL GOOD" is as absurd as someone running around bragging his THACO is -5.

In fact, at times the self-perceived alignment of a person doesnt match his/her 'real' alignment.  A  magistrate sending off the poor/old/sick of his town to concentration camps may be believe he's doing it for the good of eveyrone else. In his eyes, he's GOOD, despite the evilness of his action on an absolute scale.

Viconia is aware how her actions might be seen as evil for some people, but I believe she never think of herself as evil. No one is evil for the just sake of being evil (again, exception for extremes, psychopath etc).

That said, in one of my games, I had Viconia casted it on herself, making her yet another drow who is a champion of good. It sure was ridiculous from a RP point of view, but chunking undead (instead of controlling them) is fun heh.

Edited by jaegar, 09 November 2004 - 08:49 PM.

[fallen_demon]

i thought it had an effect, then i realized the reason i was able to have a party with such diverse alignments in my first game (i was le) was that i would constantly transform into the slayer then buy rep at a church, never having it in one zone long enough to cause anyone to leave.