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#21 Laufey

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Posted 17 October 2004 - 09:52 PM

Right, first things first: I definitely love the mod (in fact it motivated me to install ToB!) Brilliant work! :wub:

Well, for the bugs (sorry, but you asked for it -_- ), there seem to be sort of connections between the areas now, i. e. the dialog with the green-black mage who cursed Jaheira started while the party was still in the building, talking to this cowled guy. Later there appeared a monster in the Temple District.

When I met Degardan for the second time, instead of commenting on his spell Edwin started a banter with Korgan; I had to enforce the usual dialog.

At the moment I'm trying to go on to Chapter 4, but Edwin keeps talking about "important business" every time I try to do the dialog with Aran Linvail, though I went through tho whole Nether-Scroll-Thing and there is no other quest in sight.

Glad you're enjoying things so far. :)

Regarding bugs - do you have a save game before those area related things happen, or just before Degardan's appearance?

The 'important business' isn't a bug though, Edwin just doesn't want you to leave Athkatla before his second quest is done with. How far have you progressed in the romance dialogues? Ideally, Edwin should refuse to leave once he has received a certain letter from a certain somebody, and until that quest is done with. I suppose it could be that programming makes him say it earlier though.

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Posted 18 October 2004 - 01:59 AM

A note: the thing about the black-and-green robed mages talking while inside the government building happened to me a long time ago - before I ever knew there were such things as mods. So it might not have anything to do with Edwin. I has only happened once for me, despite having played through that scene lots of times.

I'm not even out of the dungeon yet in my Edwin-game, so no bugs yet. :D

#23 Laufey

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Posted 18 October 2004 - 02:54 AM

A note: the thing about the black-and-green robed mages talking while inside the government building happened to me a long time ago - before I ever knew there were such things as mods. So it might not have anything to do with Edwin. I has only happened once for me, despite having played through that scene lots of times.

I'm not even out of the dungeon yet in my Edwin-game, so no bugs yet. :D

Oh good - in that case, it's probably a bug in the game itself, not in the mod, which is good to know. :)

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Posted 18 October 2004 - 05:07 AM

Regarding bugs - do you have a save game before those area related things happen, or just before Degardan's appearance?

No, sorry, but I'll think for it next time.
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Posted 18 October 2004 - 10:37 AM

Maybe this is a bug, maybe not....

I was JUST about to board the ship to Bryanlaw, but then Edwin started talking about having certain business to take care off in Athkatla....

I've already done the Edwina part of the romance, we just kissed and I have given him some of my hair, am I suppose to wait until he gives me the charm???

#26 Laufey

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Posted 18 October 2004 - 11:11 AM

Maybe this is a bug, maybe not....

I was JUST about to board the ship to Bryanlaw, but then Edwin started talking about having certain business to take care off in Athkatla....

I've already done the Edwina part of the romance, we just kissed and I have given him some of my hair, am I suppose to wait until he gives me the charm???

Wait...the Nether Scroll quest is just the beginning. The other quest will happen some time after Edwin becomes male again.

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Posted 18 October 2004 - 09:06 PM

I played through the romance the first time with no problems at all up to Throne of Bhaal (yay!) where I promptly realised the bard I'd made really wasn't cutting it. So, I started again. This time, without installing any other mods or removing any, I ran into a painful bug:

After I meet You-Know-Who (who yes, fortunately, did not have Lord Voldemort sticking out of the back of his head), I rested for a day at the Inn as I had before and went off to see him in the Bridge District. THIS time, You-Know-Who popped up on screen for a brief moment and vanished. I ran about looking for him, checked the area, slept some more -- nothing. Finally, I opened the script file, checked the variable, found out it should have been at 3 for the second meeting to occur, and discovered it was instead set to 4. So I used the console command to set it to 3, slept another day, and everything went as planned. Just a weird and very annoying little bug, which I fortunately managed to get around. Probably a glitch on my end, but I thought I'd put it here just to be sure. :)

Great work, everyone!

#28 Laufey

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Posted 18 October 2004 - 10:48 PM

I played through the romance the first time with no problems at all up to Throne of Bhaal (yay!) where I promptly realised the bard I'd made really wasn't cutting it. So, I started again. This time, without installing any other mods or removing any, I ran into a painful bug:

After I meet You-Know-Who (who yes, fortunately, did not have Lord Voldemort sticking out of the back of his head), I rested for a day at the Inn as I had before and went off to see him in the Bridge District. THIS time, You-Know-Who popped up on screen for a brief moment and vanished. I ran about looking for him, checked the area, slept some more -- nothing. Finally, I opened the script file, checked the variable, found out it should have been at 3 for the second meeting to occur, and discovered it was instead set to 4. So I used the console command to set it to 3, slept another day, and everything went as planned. Just a weird and very annoying little bug, which I fortunately managed to get around. Probably a glitch on my end, but I thought I'd put it here just to be sure. :)

Great work, everyone!

Hey, thanks for reporting this! :) This is definitely one bug we want to eliminate if possible...if you have a savegame before it occurs, and before you modified the console, could you see if you can reproduce it? And if you can, could you please send that savegame on to Dorotea?

By the way, did you have any other NPC:s spawn at the same time that he did? I once had something similar happen to me, when Delon the little boy from Umar Hills spawned and somehow disrupted the appearance of You Know Who.

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Posted 19 October 2004 - 10:15 PM

I played through the romance the first time with no problems at all up to Throne of Bhaal (yay!) where I promptly realised the bard I'd made really wasn't cutting it.  So, I started again.  This time, without installing any other mods or removing any, I ran into a painful bug:

After I meet You-Know-Who (who yes, fortunately, did not have Lord Voldemort sticking out of the back of his head), I rested for a day at the Inn as I had before and went off to see him in the Bridge District.  THIS time, You-Know-Who popped up on screen for a brief moment and vanished.  I ran about looking for him, checked the area, slept some more -- nothing.  Finally, I opened the script file, checked the variable, found out it should have been at 3 for the second meeting to occur, and discovered it was instead set to 4.  So I used the console command to set it to 3, slept another day, and everything went as planned.  Just a weird and very annoying little bug, which I fortunately managed to get around.  Probably a glitch on my end, but I thought I'd put it here just to be sure.  :)

Great work, everyone!

Hey, thanks for reporting this! :) This is definitely one bug we want to eliminate if possible...if you have a savegame before it occurs, and before you modified the console, could you see if you can reproduce it? And if you can, could you please send that savegame on to Dorotea?

By the way, did you have any other NPC:s spawn at the same time that he did? I once had something similar happen to me, when Delon the little boy from Umar Hills spawned and somehow disrupted the appearance of You Know Who.

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I'll get a save game out as soon as I can. :) Especially since I just ran into a bug in ToB as well. Edwin won't talk at all; no love talks initiated, nada, giving Imoen AMPLE opportunity to yak-yak-yak. (Even though You-Know-Who spawned with the wraith, Edwin still didn't comment after)

I haven't had any NPCs popping up and disrupting anything though. He pops up behind the barrels at the entrance to the district for a blink, and then disappears. Nobody else shows up to chat, unfortunately. I'm glad you guys are so dedicated with your mod though . . . most people, after putting out a project, would look at the bug reports and go, "We-ell . . . I COULD fix those, but . . . on the other hand there's only six more weeks of Survivor and Celebrity Poker Showdown left . . . " ;)

#30 Laufey

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Posted 19 October 2004 - 11:31 PM

The ToB bug is *hopefully* fixed in the next version, at least if it's the same lovetalk bug that was reported before. You'll want to download that version if you haven't already. Has Edwin said *anything* in ToB or is he completely mute?

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Posted 20 October 2004 - 12:06 AM

The ToB bug is *hopefully* fixed in the next version, at least if it's the same lovetalk bug that was reported before. You'll want to download that version if you haven't already. Has Edwin said *anything* in ToB or is he completely mute?

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Not a word romance related at least. He still chimes in where he would in the original storyline (responds to Volo, ect) but that's it. I do have the latest version, yes. Sorry if I'm being difficult. We hates bugs . . . we hates them . . . FOREVER! (/dork)

#32 Laufey

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Posted 20 October 2004 - 01:03 AM

The ToB bug is *hopefully* fixed in the next version, at least if it's the same lovetalk bug that was reported before. You'll want to download that version if you haven't already. Has Edwin said *anything* in ToB or is he completely mute?

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Not a word romance related at least. He still chimes in where he would in the original storyline (responds to Volo, ect) but that's it. I do have the latest version, yes. Sorry if I'm being difficult. We hates bugs . . . we hates them . . . FOREVER! (/dork)

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You're not being difficult. :) I'm afraid I have no idea what could have caused this - the people who had problems before at least got the first two or so lovetalks. Do you know how to use Shadowkeeper, and if so, could you please check what the ExpLovetalk variable is set to?

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Posted 21 October 2004 - 06:11 AM

The ToB bug is *hopefully* fixed in the next version, at least if it's the same lovetalk bug that was reported before. You'll want to download that version if you haven't already. Has Edwin said *anything* in ToB or is he completely mute?

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Not a word romance related at least. He still chimes in where he would in the original storyline (responds to Volo, ect) but that's it. I do have the latest version, yes. Sorry if I'm being difficult. We hates bugs . . . we hates them . . . FOREVER! (/dork)

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You're not being difficult. :) I'm afraid I have no idea what could have caused this - the people who had problems before at least got the first two or so lovetalks. Do you know how to use Shadowkeeper, and if so, could you please check what the ExpLovetalk variable is set to?

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About ToB part of the romance -- I tried to run it and discovered I am dumb after all. See, if you have not exported the SoA game with active romance but rather made new ToB char and reset EdwinRomanceActive to 2 it will not run... there is another GLOBAL the lovetalks check for... I finally managed to rememebr this today. But it might have nothing to do with your problems here.

Sigh -- btw Lauf, I relalised the messed up squirrel banters were on my side -- Edwin first banter with JI kicks in too fast -- I tried to fix it yesterday by tweaking LR scripts again.

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#34 Lord E

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Posted 21 October 2004 - 06:20 AM

It seems that lovetalk 5, where Edwin is drunk was skipped. I was doing the Hendak liberation quest, when he gave talk 4. After the quest was done, I slept in CC, and next morning he gave lovetalk 6, the hangover one.

@GAH! How is this attachment thing supposed to work?

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#35 Laufey

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Posted 22 October 2004 - 05:38 AM

It seems that lovetalk 5, where Edwin is drunk was skipped. I was doing the Hendak liberation quest, when he gave talk 4. After the quest was done, I slept in CC, and next morning he gave lovetalk 6, the hangover one.

@GAH! How is this attachment thing supposed to work?

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That's a bit weird...but I don't think it's mod specific, I think I've had it happen with Anomen's romance as well.

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Posted 25 October 2004 - 09:59 AM

I've got a problem, too. After I defeated Bodhi (the first time) Edwin doesn't talk to me anymore. No lovetalks etc. I played on because I thought he would speak later, but he didn't. And now I'm going to rescue Suldanessalar - and he hasn't talked yet!

#37 Laufey

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Posted 25 October 2004 - 11:04 AM

I've got a problem, too. After I defeated Bodhi (the first time) Edwin doesn't talk to me anymore. No lovetalks etc. I played on because I thought he would speak later, but he didn't. And now I'm going to rescue Suldanessalar - and he hasn't talked yet!

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Which one was the last lovetalk that you had?

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Posted 25 October 2004 - 11:12 AM

Can you check your EdwinRomanceActive Global and tell us what it is?

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Posted 01 November 2004 - 07:55 AM

My last lovetalk was when Edwin said we were friends now. My EdwinRomanceActive-thing is set to 1.

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Posted 05 November 2004 - 07:59 AM

If there is a bug and Edwin won't turn into Edwina, the romance will stop? Or will there be next lovetalks and that quest won't have influence? If there is somewhere the same question asked please excuse me, i didn't found it.