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[Radagast-The-Brown]

I got silence hillstar(fence) to join me in chapter 6, went to the graveyard (bodhi is already dead) but the quest won't continue. Selence will NOT initiate dialogue with me, and if I go to the tombs noone shows up (I tried day&night)...Am I doing something wrong here?
Or is it another bug due to dakkons streaming blade? I still have the blade on kachiko, though I have installed the latest patch...I assumed it wouldn't do harm to a new npc...


PS1 : Selence Hillstar had proficiencies from BGI like small swords or blunt weapons as well as bg2 proficiencies is that natural??Or is it a bug?Or a bad install?

PS2 : Btw Bodhi REALLY sucked...she did nothing and just died in no time...undead solafein lasted a lot more...Could it be that Bodhi is weak because possibly a mod overwrited her? Like redemption or sola-mod? She died in 1-2 rounds in "hard" by just fighters...lol.She hardly had time to attack anyone...

Edited by Radagast-The-Brown, 09 October 2004 - 07:08 AM.

[Sir BillyBob]

I don't remember if she has anything to say at this point. All you have to do is walk over to the building that has the open doors on it. It is just past the open area with the tombstones (where the ghost boy is).

[Ferrumach]

Btw Bodhi REALLY sucked...

-Yes i confirm too, bohdi is really very weak ( irenicus too )

Selence will NOT initiate dialogue with me

-I remenber i had this problem too with selence but i got rid off her very quickly ( i don't like this caracter ). In fact i had the 2 possibilities
in first , arrived in the graveyard she gave me the coordinates of the tomb ( i wanted to test her ).
and another time ( other save latter ) as you she didn't say nothing although it was the first time she went to the graveyard
PS:
( Moreover, you are not obliged to have Selence in your team to make the quest of the graveyard you miss only her dialogs and the events post strongholds )

the tomb is at the center of the graveyard.

Edited by Ferrumach, 09 October 2004 - 09:57 AM.

[Radagast-The-Brown]

Btw Bodhi REALLY sucked...

-Yes i confirm too, bohdi is really very weak ( irenicus too )

Selence will NOT initiate dialogue with me

-I remember i had this problem too with selence but i got rid off her very quickly ( i don't like this caracter ). In fact i had the 2 possibilities
in first , arrived in the graveyard she gave me the coordinates of the tomb ( i wanted to test her ).
and another time ( other save latter ) as you she didn't say nothing although it was the first time she went to the graveyard
PS:
( Moreover, you are not obliged to have Selence in your team to make the quest of the graveyard you miss only her dialogs and the events post strongholds )

the tomb is at the center of the graveyard.

Actually I can't figure why Bodhi is so weak since the improved bodhi component of tactics is supposed to be hardwired into bp...perhaps I'll try and install it manually from tactics even though its not compatible..I MUST see bodhi powerful...

As for the Selence quest : She DIDN'T give me any coordinates and most of the tombs are inaccessible due to the bodhi quest (only one is open which leads to her lair).That still leaves me without ever seeing that quest .

R u sure I can still do the quest even without Selence? As far as I've seen no monsters spawn unless Selence says something...the baneliches quest MUST be triggered somehow...
Anyone knows the banelich area? So I can clua there perhaps?

Edited by Radagast-The-Brown, 09 October 2004 - 11:44 AM.

[Ferrumach]

in the graveyard:

the entry is: x=1615, y=1400


Normally the tomb is opened ( in my game it was accessible even at chapter 2...)

but if there is a problem ( i don't know why)
CLUAConsole:MoveToArea("AR4210");
x= 3546
y= 2229

( coordinates of the entry of the zone )
Normally you see 2 monsters ( skin of mummy and skin of fire elementals...)

since the improved bodhi component of tactics is supposed to be hardwired into bp.

Are you sure that HP wanted in BP bohdi of tactics ?

R u sure I can still do the quest even without Selence

i remember to have done it without her or perhaps just the beginning
but without her i am sure you can access to the lair with the monsters etc..
( when you speak about selence's quest "quest" is a big word.... )

Edited by Ferrumach, 09 October 2004 - 11:20 AM.

[Sir BillyBob]

You don't have to have her. The advantage of her being with you is that you get another stronghold (for fencing goods, see the SoS walkthrough). As I said, it is the tomb with the open doors, it is an entrance not available in regular SOA, so don't look in those spots. The entrance is always available, I have fought the liches back in chapter 2 also. The only reason you may not have this doorway is if you installed another mod that overwrites this area (DoS is one of them).

As for Bodhi, like all vampires, her best weapon is level draining. So if you are immune she can't do much to you and it is an easy fight. I used my Undead Hunter with Boots of Speed and a Oil of Speed potion, it took maybe 3 hits to kill her. Unless you want her to have some other "special" powers, there isn't much to her.

For Jonny, if you have 100% magic resistance, he can't really do anything to you either. Plus remember these creatures are designed for you to fight them at around level 15 or so. If you are higher, the fight is easier. There are no scripts or anything else that modifies these enemies based on your level.

[Radagast-The-Brown]

ok thanx to all for your help(really)...seems u were right...I'm a little blind as it seems though selence never told me the coords even after some loads...
anyway the way was open indeed...


PS : On the avatar of Lolth encounter btw I keep having viconia attack me...I know its logical but is there a way around this? She keeps staying in the party but hostile even if I kill her and ressurect her...also I tried dominating her but in vain...
Is there any way to keep her?(Apart from the leave her outside before doing this quest of course though i dont know if that would work either). Seems I can't kill Lolth with Viconia in the party...damn...and Viconia is 37 level..."Can't just get rid of her...

Edited by Radagast-The-Brown, 09 October 2004 - 11:52 AM.

[seanas]

y'know, there are some problems that are most readily solved by consulting the walkthru.

Edited by seanas, 09 October 2004 - 12:17 PM.

[Radagast-The-Brown]

y'know, there are some problems that are most readily solved by consulting the walkthru.

lol tell me something I don't know...actually I have the sorcerer's walkthrough and I checked it before I even started the selence quest...
But it DIDN'T say about the tomb coords NOR did it say about viconia in your party when going for Lolth...obviously it was a good party walkthrough...

[seanas]

it makes no comment about viccy, true - although as a drow, you could anticipate her reponse, but about the location of the tomb it says:

When you arrive in the Graveyard district Selence will provide some vague information about where to head. I, on the other hand simply say ?go to x1620 y1310?

[Radagast-The-Brown]

it makes no comment about viccy, true - although as a drow, you could anticipate her reponse, but about the location of the tomb it says:

When you arrive in the Graveyard district Selence will provide some vague information about where to head. I, on the other hand simply say ?go to x1620 y1310?

oops u r right of course...didn't notice that..I must still find what to do with viconia though...


PS : I know u r busy seanas but u didnt answer any of my pms or email...waiting for an answer or 2 on some issues...

[seanas]

PS : I know u r busy seanas but u didnt answer any of my pms or email...waiting for an answer or 2 on some issues...

given the recent election result in australia, the likelihood of me doing anything other than drinking destructive amounts of alcohol in the near future approaches zero.... so you'll have to wait a few days, i'm afraid.

[Radagast-The-Brown]

PS : I know u r busy seanas but u didnt answer any of my pms or email...waiting for an answer or 2 on some issues...

given the recent election result in australia, the likelihood of me doing anything other than drinking destructive amounts of alcohol in the near future approaches zero.... so you'll have to wait a few days, i'm afraid.

I can wait no problem...You deserve rest anyway...
Though the "destructive amounts" doesn't sound good to me...hope u don't overdo it...We wouldn't want to lose you...

Edited by Radagast-The-Brown, 09 October 2004 - 02:53 PM.

[Sir BillyBob]

Sounds like every other election. Just a matter of picking the lesser of two evils. You won't win either way, but at least you can bitch since you did vote.

[Eon Blue Apocalypse]

given the recent election result in australia, the likelihood of me doing anything other than drinking destructive amounts of alcohol in the near future approaches zero.... so you'll have to wait a few days, i'm afraid.

Hey, I seem to have missed these, who won?

[Radagast-The-Brown]

Dakkons Streaming Blade seems to be destroying NPCS still even after the patch... Selence never talks about anything...She didn't speak about the tomb coords and she WON'T talk about the fence stronghold quest neither even after I have finished all the baneliches-deep dragon areas... And come to think of it i put her in my party after installing the latest beta patch...damn blade...

[seanas]

radagast, dakkon's streaming blade will only affect those NPCs who you give it to: so if they've never equipped it, it can't change their character scripts.

as to Selence, the SoS walkthru and what i remember of the old teambg SoS boards indicate that she's heavily bugged: i don't plan to de-bug her any time soon, because if CBisson couldn't get her to work, the likelihood of me having more success is slight. maybe one day in the future: the same day i can be bothered trying to de-bug Dar, i suspect.

[Radagast-The-Brown]

radagast, dakkon's streaming blade will only affect those NPCs who you give it to: so if they've never equipped it, it can't change their character scripts.

as to Selence, the SoS walkthru and what i remember of the old teambg SoS boards indicate that she's heavily bugged: i don't plan to de-bug her any time soon, because if CBisson couldn't get her to work, the likelihood of me having more success is slight. maybe one day in the future: the same day i can be bothered trying to de-bug Dar, i suspect.

Perhaps u r right..but nothing is for certain...how do u explain that ALL the NPCS in my party never EVER talk, even though I have only given the blade ONLY to Kachiko?Could it be because they have finished all the banters in SoA? Should i expect all these to continue in ToB?

[Sir BillyBob]

The dialog files for TOB are different. Most have the *25.DLG ending to them. So no, the banters will not continue into TOB. I think some of the NPC mods are designed to carry banters into TOB but not much else.