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[Littiz]

Some help ahem ahem would be appreciated...

Easy but unearned rethoric, Dorotea.

As we all agree, those flaws are not removable if you intend to keep that animation.
So, other than suggesting the solution I'd take myself, how am I supposed to help?

About sounds, I was just suggesting a non-chaotic use of the existing ones, but it's a secondary matter.

Edited by Littiz, 01 October 2004 - 04:37 AM.

[Caedwyr]

Actually in the vanilla BGII, characters often spoke a canned line that had nothing to do with their actual dialogue. Take for example Minsc's "Sword" shout in his first dialogue after leaving Chateau Irenicus. It doesn't match his text dialogue at all, but is used to let the player know his intonation and emotion behind the words. Some players may think it doesn't fit, but it is there in the original game, so LR isn't doing anything new here.

[Schatten]

As far as I see the only real problem would be the staves animation, as sling or dagger is not that visible... Hmm. Maybe there is a way to make Jon a special kit that forbids him use of staves? Goes way to balance him btw...

the paper doll you posted a page back looks very good. the mask needs a bit more work to fit in. not seeing items equiped and not having the proper animation is way better as using stupid standard elf animation. wow, he is named ji but looks like the stupid commoner next door. no way.

[dorotea]

Alright! I shall work on the Mask bam and the Robes of Irenicus bam then.

Here is the Final-final Irenicus paperdoll bam after some more tweaking today.



I tried to work with the mask item... but the item is too small to produce anything decent... All I could do was sharper, smiling face -- but it is smaller, and I am not sure this new mask is any better. Jon on other hand had his arm shadow fixed.

Edited by dorotea, 01 October 2004 - 07:40 PM.

[dorotea]

Thanks for reporting this -- blast it, she was supposed to check for InParty("irenicus") and I tested the scene without Jonny I swear... Need to check again I guess. See, Ascension introduces some glitches as well if you have improved Gro. I better re-work this sequence, sigh... Tried to save on Globals here as they heavy the game down quite a lot...

[dorotea]

Btw -- do you have a save just before entering ? It will be great if you can email me the save at ladydorotea@hotmail.com.

[T.G.Maestro]

I shall work on the Mask bam and the Robes of Irenicus bam then

Don't forget the other item-bams! They should be made fitting into the game by recoloring them (E.g. removing the colors from the decription bams).

[dorotea]

S-K is working on these! Check the Workrom -- it is a blast to see these new pictures.

[Eon Blue Apocalypse]

I must say I rather like the paperdoll you created. :thumb:

But, would it be acceptable to you, to add an option (somewhere, tugged away) to use a generic paperdoll for those who'd prefer that?

[Caedwyr]

Actually its mentioned earlier in this thread, that Dorotea would have liked to use a generic doll, but for some strange technical reason it wasn't possible to implement this. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[dorotea]

Yes, sorry for being late to answer on this one. Basically the character animation is hard-wired with the paperdoll. The only way to give a character a regular paperdoll would be to change his animation to generic elven wizard.

I suppose it can be done as an 'on request' feature. Same as I have original portrait restore, so it can be 'give Irenicus elven animation and paperdoll' component. Yes this is doable. Infact if there is enough votes for this feature I will include it with next release.

[Sir-Kill]

Not that I know any thing about how to do this but couldn't you gust make 8 different heads of john and paste them on a human/half orc fighter/or something and paste the heads on the hundred or so animated images

tedious yes but could it work?

[dorotea]

Well, you can edit the paperdoll animations and achieve this, but than we would have to use the in-game animation of a human or a half orc as well (I mean the appearance of the character in-game, not the picture on the inventory screen.)

The game is coded so that the animation is linked with paperdoll -- ie if you pick 'Jon Irenicus' animation for the cre, its paperdoll file has to be 'nireinv.bam'.

I am not sure if re-naming the generic paperdoll bam will work. I tried with some or another and it did not. Too bad TeamBG is gone -- I got all my info about this feature from their graphics editing forum!

By any means feel free to experiment though. If you can manage to give Irenicuses animation a different paperdoll it would be something to boast about!

[Littiz]

Yes this is doable. Infact if there is enough votes for this feature I will include it with next release.

I personally would ask it only if it was followed by a few (I figure) implied story changes and dialogs..

Otherwise I'd rather hope to see one day additional weapon animation for the current avatar...
One is free to hope, isn't he?