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[Radagast-The-Brown]

I hope i'm the only one experiencing this problem...cause if i'm not, then i cant understand why it isn't fixed...

The spell description says 1d6 dmg for every 2lvls up to 6-36dmg which the caster gains on top of his current hit points....

What actually happens?? Except that dmg is never so little let me mention this :
I managed to kill an ogre magi in the copper coronet with just one vampiric touch...
Today i cast it on a monster with magic resistance... Of course no dmg was dealt..but guess what i got +70 hit points....so i then had a mage with 150 hit points or so...the spell should just fizzle on magic resistance not work at its super max!! i cant believe u can get 70hit points or kill anyone with this unbelievable spell which actually should be banned from the game....3rd level spell and deals 50dmg at least, no save...
As much as i love it i hate it...
I thought there was a baldurdash fix about this...but i doubt if its implemented in the bp...

[Stone Wolf]

That's odd. The spell should never do more than 36 magic damage, or give a bonus of more than 36 hp. They even put an effect prevently you from getting a bonus from two of these spells at the same time.

It will grant bonus hps even when MR prevents the damage, though. That's standard.

[Radagast-The-Brown]

That's odd. The spell should never do more than 36 magic damage, or give a bonus of more than 36 hp. They even put an effect prevently you from getting a bonus from two of these spells at the same time.

It will grant bonus hps even when MR prevents the damage, though. That's standard.

Actually its true...You can't get the bonus hit points more than once...
But when u do u actually get 50 to 80 extra hit points which is just unbalanced for a 3rd level spell...Also in ad&d a touch was required...where is that? At least if it is to be that powerful a touch should be required...

[Stone Wolf]

Huh. I checked the percentages and they seem to be correct, so I can't see why you'd ever get more than 36 hps added. As for why it doesn't actually require a touch...I haven't the foggiest idea. The spell range is touch and it's a combat spell, so realistically it would use the magic weapon thing that Harm does. You'd have to ask the developers why they didn't do that, if they ever remember after all this time.

[Radagast-The-Brown]

Is there any chance that the spell is changed either in bp or in shadows over soubar or in the darkest day???

If not then i just cant understand what Is the problem...

[Stone Wolf]

It could be that it's changed. I don't have much in the way of mods installed right now, so I can't check.

[the bigg]

Have you Weimer's Spell-50 installed? (or, eventually, does BP feature it hard-wired?)
As for the "touch" thing, I guess it's because it enables to prevent double HP gain (you have an immune to spell opcode, but not an immune to item opcode.)

[hlidskialf]

Have you Weimer's Spell-50 installed? (or, eventually, does BP feature it hard-wired?)

Nope.

[Radagast-The-Brown]

Have you Weimer's Spell-50 installed? (or, eventually, does BP feature it hard-wired?)
As for the "touch" thing, I guess it's because it enables to prevent double HP gain (you have an immune to spell opcode, but not an immune to item opcode.)

No i have installed nothing that changes the spells...

[Drasius]

Do you have "auto pause when spell cast" on?

I have encountered this a few times before, sometime Vamp touch will affect the target twice if auto pause is on, giving double hp gain and some times double damage as well. This has happened in an un modded, unpatched game, an un modded fully patched game as well as a fully patched and modded game, so a mod is probably no the issue.

It also affects the wizard spell as well as the inate ability, so that isn't the cause either.

[Radagast-The-Brown]

Do you have "auto pause when spell cast" on?

I have encountered this a few times before, sometime Vamp touch will affect the target twice if auto pause is on, giving double hp gain and some times double damage as well. This has happened in an un modded, unpatched game, an un modded fully patched game as well as a fully patched and modded game, so a mod is probably no the issue.

It also affects the wizard spell as well as the inate ability, so that isn't the cause either.

Yes i have it on!! That MUST be the reason then...and yes i have that problem with both the innate AND the wizard spell i think....i guess next baldurdash fix pack should include it then...

[Stone Wolf]

Do you have "auto pause when spell cast" on?

I have encountered this a few times before, sometime Vamp touch will affect the target twice if auto pause is on, giving double hp gain and some times double damage as well. This has happened in an un modded, unpatched game, an un modded fully patched game as well as a fully patched and modded game, so a mod is probably no the issue.

It also affects the wizard spell as well as the inate ability, so that isn't the cause either.

Nice find.

[hlidskialf]

....i guess next baldurdash fix pack should include it then...

It wouldn't be a baldurdash type fix, but instead a game engine problem. Live with it or not are the only options.

[Stone Wolf]

Has anyone noticed a doubling effect with other spells when auto-pause is on? I'm specifically wondering about spells with no projectile.

[Radagast-The-Brown]

....i guess next baldurdash fix pack should include it then...

It wouldn't be a baldurdash type fix, but instead a game engine problem. Live with it or not are the only options.

i know its a game engine problem...but patches are also supposed to solve these kind of problems...and since baldurdash include patch fixes that the official patch didn't include I assumed such a problem could also be included there...

[hlidskialf]

No, baldurdash fixed game FILE problems, not engine problems.