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Poll: Would you download a serious mod that adds familiars? (43 member(s) have cast votes)

Would you download a serious mod that adds familiars?

  1. Yes (39 votes [90.70%])

    Percentage of vote: 90.70%

  2. No (4 votes [9.30%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.30%

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#41 Schatten

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Posted 19 September 2004 - 12:01 PM

well, this will even make battles way more easy. imagine i run around with an iron golem or adamantine golem. they are way too good. even a stone golem is pretty good. remember the ki enemies dont have your brain and all the items the pcs have.
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#42 Awake

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Posted 19 September 2004 - 12:03 PM

i'm thinking more like a lesser flesh golem. Maybe lesser lesser lesser elementals too.
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#43 Schatten

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Posted 19 September 2004 - 12:10 PM

:lol: and the ingredients are gathered on the graveyard or you have to kill some peasants. i like that. :D
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#44 Awake

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Posted 19 September 2004 - 12:15 PM

actually, i like that idea. i could make some undroppable items and give them to some peasants and put some in the graveyard. i like this idea. And you can talk to the peasants and they will say something different, and you have to guess whether they're holding something important or not. The head of the golem could be held by some skeleton king in the graveyard. Nice idea. :thumb:

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Edited by Awake, 19 September 2004 - 12:36 PM.

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And the raven, never flitting, still is sitting, still is sitting
On the pallid bust of Pallas just above my chamber door;
And his eyes have all the seeming of a demon's that is dreaming,
And the lamp-light o'er him streaming throws his shadow on the floor;
And my soul from out that shadow that lies floating on the floor
Shall be lifted - nevermore!


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If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there.

#45 Awake

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Posted 19 September 2004 - 01:19 PM

another idea. Valygar tries to kill you. Or something like that. Some great battle between you and him. He hates wizards, yet he will still join your party if you have every wizard possible with you. Edwin, Aerie, Imoen, Me. Yet still joins the party. What the heck is up with that? "I hate wizards, but you seem alright for no reason at all and i have never heard anything about you, you could be some evil mage trying to kill everyone, but hey, i'll still join your party."
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And the raven, never flitting, still is sitting, still is sitting
On the pallid bust of Pallas just above my chamber door;
And his eyes have all the seeming of a demon's that is dreaming,
And the lamp-light o'er him streaming throws his shadow on the floor;
And my soul from out that shadow that lies floating on the floor
Shall be lifted - nevermore!


Like dealing with terrorists by giving them explosives. -NotMrT

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#46 Awake

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Posted 19 September 2004 - 01:31 PM

Dragon lord mentioned being able to choose your opposition school in another thread. I don't think this is possible, but it might be.

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And the raven, never flitting, still is sitting, still is sitting
On the pallid bust of Pallas just above my chamber door;
And his eyes have all the seeming of a demon's that is dreaming,
And the lamp-light o'er him streaming throws his shadow on the floor;
And my soul from out that shadow that lies floating on the floor
Shall be lifted - nevermore!


Like dealing with terrorists by giving them explosives. -NotMrT

If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there.

#47 Eclipse

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Posted 19 September 2004 - 02:29 PM

Have you played the game with valygar? He gets over his 'magic phobia'...

I'd appreciate it if you would leave those mage ideas alone, and just do the familiars part. I just figured that while you were working on them, you could find out what made them so special in being able to travel with the party from area to area. And if you could findout if it was possible to make other spell's summons travel in the same way.

Once the familiars bit is working properly, then you move onto the next thing. Don't end up making the Planar Sphere mod's mistake and going for quantity over quality.

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Posted 19 September 2004 - 02:42 PM

I just figured that while you were working on them, you could find out what made them so special in being able to travel with the party from area to area. And if you could findout if it was possible to make other spell's summons travel in the same way.

There's no mystery here. Using the MakeGlobal() action via script patches the cre to the .gam file. That lets it transfer from area to area. Igi made a sample mod that shows how to do this for any creature. I can't find the link so I'll just attach the thing here.
The reason that no one has done this for all summoned cre is because once added to the .gam file, it can't be removed. A buildup in the .gam can really slow your game as well. But it's certainly worth doing for a few custom projects!

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#49 Eclipse

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Posted 19 September 2004 - 02:53 PM

What actually gets put on the .gam file? is it everything like a .cre file?

would it be possible to recycle? So after the 1st summon dies, when you summon the 2nd is there anyway to make it overrite the previous summon?

Edited by Eclipse, 19 September 2004 - 02:56 PM.


#50 Awake

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Posted 19 September 2004 - 04:17 PM

no answers from me on that part, but as for only touching the familiars and summons, they're all going to be done, but i'm going to do them seperately, and they'll be selectable on which is installed. I'm going to see what i can do for the summons traveling with the pc, i just have to download that thing hlid uploaded.

does anyone have the are file for ar1200 that they can give me? I messed it up, and don't want to reinstall the game which takes two hours on my pc. actually, i think i need the wed file too.

Edited by Awake, 19 September 2004 - 04:33 PM.

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And the raven, never flitting, still is sitting, still is sitting
On the pallid bust of Pallas just above my chamber door;
And his eyes have all the seeming of a demon's that is dreaming,
And the lamp-light o'er him streaming throws his shadow on the floor;
And my soul from out that shadow that lies floating on the floor
Shall be lifted - nevermore!


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#51 Schatten

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Posted 19 September 2004 - 04:53 PM

hey, for evil wizards you can create brain golems. the brains are gathered from other wizards. huah, the fearful braingolem is walking. :lol:

edit: you could use the itempicture from the d2 brain?? :D

Edited by Schatten, 19 September 2004 - 04:54 PM.

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#52 Awake

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Posted 19 September 2004 - 04:57 PM

Why do i get the feeling you're being sarcastic now?
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And the raven, never flitting, still is sitting, still is sitting
On the pallid bust of Pallas just above my chamber door;
And his eyes have all the seeming of a demon's that is dreaming,
And the lamp-light o'er him streaming throws his shadow on the floor;
And my soul from out that shadow that lies floating on the floor
Shall be lifted - nevermore!


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#53 Schatten

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Posted 19 September 2004 - 05:07 PM

nono, brain golems are with the mindflayer brain, so are in the game.
and for evil wizards its fun to cut out the brains and create a lesser brain golem which you can update with better brains from higher wizards. :D :lol:
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#54 Awake

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Posted 19 September 2004 - 05:25 PM

:edwin: :blink: umm... that would be really hard to do with this engine. maybe we could try it with the infinity times ten engine(ITTE) and then it might work. But then again, there's no such thing as an engine like that.

I do remember the brain golems, i also remember i hated their guts. Perhaps a turnip golem? or a grass golem? or a poop golem?

wed/are file for ar1200 would be nice...........

Edited by Awake, 19 September 2004 - 05:51 PM.

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And the raven, never flitting, still is sitting, still is sitting
On the pallid bust of Pallas just above my chamber door;
And his eyes have all the seeming of a demon's that is dreaming,
And the lamp-light o'er him streaming throws his shadow on the floor;
And my soul from out that shadow that lies floating on the floor
Shall be lifted - nevermore!


Like dealing with terrorists by giving them explosives. -NotMrT

If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there.

#55 Awake

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Posted 19 September 2004 - 06:13 PM

who voted no? that messed up a possible 100% poll. anyways, i'm thinking that maybe the familiars could buy things from stores and then give the items to you. or steal them from the stores. and if the familiar gets caught, and it kills the shopkeeper there won't be any rep loss.

I really don't want to reinstall the game, so if anyone can upload the wed/are files of ar1200, that would be very kind of you.

Edited by Awake, 19 September 2004 - 06:14 PM.

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And the raven, never flitting, still is sitting, still is sitting
On the pallid bust of Pallas just above my chamber door;
And his eyes have all the seeming of a demon's that is dreaming,
And the lamp-light o'er him streaming throws his shadow on the floor;
And my soul from out that shadow that lies floating on the floor
Shall be lifted - nevermore!


Like dealing with terrorists by giving them explosives. -NotMrT

If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there.

#56 Stone Wolf

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Posted 19 September 2004 - 06:15 PM

Perhaps a turnip golem? or a grass golem? or a poop golem?

A turnip golem? I think Jan would switch sides if you attacked it. The grass golem is basically a plant golem, unless you don't mean the kind of grass that you normally walk on. In that case, I'd imagine hitting it with fire would kill it while pacifying the entire area. I'm not going to go near the poop golem, and I mean that both literally and figuratively. ;)

#57 Awake

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Posted 19 September 2004 - 06:20 PM

hmm... attacked with fire the grass golem will explode into a great cloud of fog, causing all around but the most sturdiest of tokers will fall to the ground in a state of unawareness... :thumb:

as for the poop golem, that is just the point, nobody would go near him, and your mage would only have to fight off projectile weapons. I can see some new banter already.

<charname>: Get away from me, you stink!
Poop Golem: Oh... Maybe you just need a hug :wub:
<charname>: NOOOO!!!!
(magic missile)
(stench of burning crap fills the air)
Poop Golem: Help me!! I'm burning!
(<charname> passes out)
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And the raven, never flitting, still is sitting, still is sitting
On the pallid bust of Pallas just above my chamber door;
And his eyes have all the seeming of a demon's that is dreaming,
And the lamp-light o'er him streaming throws his shadow on the floor;
And my soul from out that shadow that lies floating on the floor
Shall be lifted - nevermore!


Like dealing with terrorists by giving them explosives. -NotMrT

If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there.

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Posted 19 September 2004 - 06:58 PM

your apprentices make a scroll in about three days


very good point, and i now realize what he was talking about. I thought he meant making a new spell with DLTCEP takes months of work. he was talking about in FR. That makes more sense, since i made a spell in half an hour :edwin: <--something went wrong though...

i want my mage to be able to scribe scrolls since my [SIZE=7]thief can[SIZE=7]

well, this will even make battles way more easy. imagine i run around with an iron golem or adamantine golem

just make a golem to guard the sphere like lavok does

#59 Awake

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Posted 19 September 2004 - 07:01 PM

thief can



Sorry, but i feel that it is necessary to correct other peoples mistakes sometimes.

as for the golem guarding the sphere, i believe that's where the idea came from. We wanted a golem that would leave the sphere. After everything is dead in there, what is the point of having him/her/it stay in there?
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And the raven, never flitting, still is sitting, still is sitting
On the pallid bust of Pallas just above my chamber door;
And his eyes have all the seeming of a demon's that is dreaming,
And the lamp-light o'er him streaming throws his shadow on the floor;
And my soul from out that shadow that lies floating on the floor
Shall be lifted - nevermore!


Like dealing with terrorists by giving them explosives. -NotMrT

If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there.

#60 Immortality

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Posted 20 September 2004 - 03:57 AM

Awake: Id SO download a mod that let NPCs have familiars! I'm still very dissapointed Aerie cant have one...
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