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Shadow Thieves
Started by Bane, Sep 05 2004 11:06 AM
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Posted 13 September 2004 - 08:48 AM
Not really - after all, if wiping out the Shadow Thieves were as easy as BG2 makes it appear, plenty of other groups would have already done it .
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Posted 16 September 2004 - 12:36 PM
Disagreed. While it may not break the shadow thieves completely, it'd still screw them over pretty badly. I mean, you suddenly lose an entire city and a whole load of your thieves in it. That's still bound to give the organization a heck of a backlash, even if not a terminal one.
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Posted 17 September 2004 - 10:54 AM
but the leader of the thieves is also in athlika (or at least holds power in it, being a member of the council of 6) so they wouldn't be losing the city.
bhodi's whole purpose of the guild war eludes me...but i guess this isn't the right forum for that.
bhodi's whole purpose of the guild war eludes me...but i guess this isn't the right forum for that.
Edited by fallen_demon, 17 September 2004 - 10:55 AM.
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Posted 19 September 2004 - 06:40 AM
The Guild war was just Bodhi's way to lead the PC to Irenicus in Spellhold. It didn't matter which side the PC picked since both sides were willing to "help" the PC because of the Guild war.
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Posted 25 September 2004 - 12:38 PM
David Gaider (designer, BGII) did explain in his Ascension readme.txt that part of the reason that some of the game elements were made "easy" was because they did not want to intimidate someone new to the AD&D world by making the game too difficult. If you install the Tactics and Ascension mods into the game, a lot of the encounters are improved, particularly in question the Guild Wars where Aran Livail is made much more powerful.Not really - after all, if wiping out the Shadow Thieves were as easy as BG2 makes it appear, plenty of other groups would have already done it
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Posted 30 September 2004 - 09:56 AM
Didn't mom tell you that if you scare newbies you'll end up like Edwin :edwin: !
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Posted 30 September 2004 - 12:54 PM
Hey, you have to teach people that they can't just go around attacking everything or they'll get stomped on.
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Posted 30 September 2004 - 06:28 PM
The assassination of Aran Linvail by the PCs would achieve very little except for making an enemy out of the most powerful thieves' guild on the Sword Coast. Not only is the building you raid not the HQ of the Shadow Thieves (its merely the Shadowhouse, the guild house for assassins, burglers, pickpockets, racketeers, thugs, bounty hunters of the Alandor Sect, which encompasses northern Amn) but Aran Linvail is a Shadowmaster, of which Athkatla alone has 10. Linvail would manage one aspect of the Shadow Thieves operations (likely one of the above mentioned roles seeing as where he lives).
All this information (and much more) can be found 'Lands of Intrigue', a 2E campaign expansion set downloadable at http://www.wizards.c...d/dnd/downloads. It really is a critical accessory for anyone intending to mod for BGII>
All this information (and much more) can be found 'Lands of Intrigue', a 2E campaign expansion set downloadable at http://www.wizards.c...d/dnd/downloads. It really is a critical accessory for anyone intending to mod for BGII>
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Posted 02 October 2004 - 09:11 AM
Hey, you have to teach people that they can't just go around attacking everything or they'll get stomped on.
Yes, but leave that to the dragons. They'll give a good lesson of don't-attack-this-sleeping-draconic-being
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Posted 02 October 2004 - 09:43 AM
They won't learn anything if it's a creature the expect to be hard.
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Posted 02 October 2004 - 10:38 AM
Oh, they shall learn that you don't go pestering powerful beings without consequences.
Edited by Archmage Silver, 02 October 2004 - 10:38 AM.
