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[minotaur_in_maze]

Sometime I am SO smart I amaze even myself! :love:

This GENERALY happens because I am SO stupid in Other areas...

Anyway, awhile back I took (and flunked out of...) a Visual Basic/Web Design course. While there, I learned that there was a Program that did much of the "Nuts and Bolts Programming" end of things for webpages. It was called Dreamweaver and it IS pretty neat.

What I am thinking of is for some bright boys and girl to come up with an equally painless way to make NPC characters, Areas, simple quests and such.

Y'know... maybe a point/add interface that has the programming done as You (the modder) add things. That way the modder could stick with the more CREATIVE end of things and let the Program do the zillion and one "If one tilde is outa place I will crash your game forever and ever amen" coding. :bash: :bash: :bash:

Am I the only one who's ever thought of this? What would be involved???


Minotaur In Maze - "October" NPC in the works. (with lots a help from folk here)

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[Andyr]

Well, tools like WeiDU are essentially this.

[Sillara]

I doubt that anything will ever be able to do a sort of "type in all your dialogues here and it will code them for you" or a "describe your cutscene and watch it code itself in" thing. I do not think that it is possible. If I am wrong, then someone please make it!

Sillara

[Rastor]

You mean something like the GUI Dialogue Editor in DLTCEP?

[CamDawg]

Wes is working on a number of new commands for the next WeiDU, v161. From what I can gather, new commands will include:

• MAKE_KEWL_MOD
  
• PUBLIC_NUDITY (Mang0 Request)
  
• CREATE_HACKMASTER_12
  
• NPC_PWN_J00

This should simplify mod-making considerably.

[Andyr]

You forgot MAEK_L337_TC.

[minotaur_in_maze]

Alright...alright already, it was just a thought!

It's just that I am SO new to modding and going nuts trying to learn how to (Correctly) code. I just thought this would be a nice dream.

Actually, I HAVE played around with the NWN toolset, but, as I am not crazy about NWN graphics, I thought something like it for the BGII style engine would be a good thing.

Just dreaming

Minotaur In Maze :drunk:

[SimDing0]

A long time ago, there was something called ICM. It was pretty much aiming to be the IE equivalent of what the NWN toolset is now. It was, however, a complete disaster, and impossible to do anything useful with at all. The closest we have to all-in-one editing now is DLTCEP or NI, and that's all it needs to be, really.

[NiGHTMARE]

I don't know how many people here have ever used it, but the editor that came with Starcraft was one of the best (and easiest) editors I've ever used. If someone came up with a similar program for the Infinity Engine I'd die happy .

[Lady LeFay]

Ditto. Something like that would be great for someone who is techincally challenge like myself.

[Efreet]

I't would be a dream come true

I remember starcraft editor and I could operate it with no problem.

(while in Weidu, the furthest I got was, "press enter for more options" :turnip2: )

[khay]

The easiest editor I`ve laid my hands on was the one for Dungeon Keeper I. The funny thing is that you could also do all sorts of interesting and (relatively) complex things in it, so it was quite surprising and enjoyable.

I think such tools can be made and if I knew programming I might have started thinking about stuff like that. If not areas, but simple quests and scripts could be possible.

[Shed]

(while in Weidu, the furthest I got was, "press enter for more options" :turnip2: )

You aren't meant to use the WeiDU executable. You are meant to use textual files (.tp2, .d and .tra) in order to tell WeiDU_renamed.exe what to do.

[Schatten]

I don't know how many people here have ever used it, but the editor that came with Starcraft was one of the best (and easiest) editors I've ever used.  If someone came up with a similar program for the Infinity Engine I'd die happy .

i've created a whole 10 map campaign(humans), with intro speeches (perfectly timed, of course), cutscenes (iirc) and own ai (improved insane ai). this tool was so easy to work with.
only problem was on later maps, you have to fight 3-4 insane ai teamed up. pretty much impossible if you get rushed after a few minutes with 40-50 zealots, marines and zerglings.

Edited by Schatten, 02 September 2004 - 03:55 AM.

[psiclops]

I'm sorry if this is sort of off-topic, but seeing as we're talking about Starcraft editors. I started playing Starcraft again a couple of months back, and one of the Terran missions is corrupted on my CD (which really sucked).

I tried at Starcraft forums but no one could help me. From memory it's the tenth Terran mission, "The Hammer Falls".

I imagine that would be the name of the .scm if anyone can extract it.
It would make me really happy if someone could somehow extract this for me.
If you can, please PM me, and I'll send you an email to send the attachment.
Alternatively, host it somewhere temporarily and I can ftp if you prefer.

Huge love if anyone can figure out how to do this!!