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[Jarno Mikkola]

BGT seems very interesting, and i would have tried it before, but TotSC was unavailable to me for some time, and i have finally been able to reaquire it. ANYWAYS, my question is this: WITH the BGT tweak pack, who will be imprisoned with you in Irenicus' dungeon when you transition from BG1 to BG2 SoA? I've read that whatever characters you had in your party will transfer over (although without extra banters) but will any of them have been captured with you? Also, if not, will Jaheira and Minsc start out in irenicus' dungeon even though you did not have them in your party at the end of BG1? I really do apologize if these seems excessive, but i've been searching (probably in the worng places anyways) and have yet to understand who will actually start in the dungeon.

Well, that's no one new, in a way...
Let's take an example party so you might get better idea what happen; The player plays the BG1 part using few NPCs, he takes Minsc, Viconia, Dynaheir, Khalid and another player created character from the the multiplayer using trick that everyone should know(swapping the save from the mpsave to the save folder) with him to the transition part, but also uses Jaheira but she accidentally died durring the adventure so she was removed from the party, Imoen but kicked her out too, and Edwin and few others.

Now, what happens to the party is that everyone leaves except the player created charactes, but as you remember Imoen comes to you after the dialog with Irenicus.
Now, Imoens stats and class will be exactly as they were in the original BG2:SoA start as
The the party meats Jaheira and Minsc, yes Jaheira is actually alive with the BG2:SoA stats and everything, Minsc, as he was in the party during the transition, has the exactly like he was at the end of BG1 part of the game(so if you made the character a Barbarian during the BG1 part of the game or with the Level1NPCs mod, he will be a Barbarian in the BG2 part too), he might have gained a few extra experience points but that's nothing new, but he doesn't have any armor or weapons or other items.
The recreated party will the move ahead with the BG2's start and should notice the Dynaheir, Khalid dead bodies in the first 2 dungeon levels, find Viconia at the stake, exactly as she was before the transition like Minsc, and also alike without any items.
Now there is a BGT Tweak component that brings more NPCs over to BG2, such as Kagain, these NPCs will be found during the play, most of them can join the party, but not all, like Faldorn that tries to kill the PC in the normal BG2 game. The NPCs do not have any extra content unless another mod adds that...

Edited by Jarno Mikkola, 30 April 2009 - 11:09 PM.

[maximus2001]

That is a nice summary Jarno, just wondering where did you see Dynaheir's body?

So basically it is just Minsc, Jaheira, and Imoen (with changed stats or abilities from BG1). What if you had Jaheira at say 200k experience, but she was not with you on the transition. Would she show up in BG2 with the extra xp?

[Leomar]

So basically it is just Minsc, Jaheira, and Imoen (with changed stats or abilities from BG1).

Edwin and Viconia, too, but you'll not find them in Irenicus Dungeon. Both are at their normal places.

What if you had Jaheira at say 200k experience, but she was not with you on the transition. Would she show up in BG2 with the extra xp?

No, only if you transitioned with her. Otherwise the above mentioned NPCs gets their normal BG2 values.

Greetings Leomar

Edited by Leomar, 02 May 2009 - 07:08 PM.

[Leomar]

Which characters can join you in bg2 exactly ? can Xzar and montaron come along ?

Standard BGT:
If they are alive when you transitioned from BG1 to BG2 then the five ones we mentioned above:
Imoen, Jaheira, Minsc, Edwin and Viconia.

With BGT Tweak Pack you get the options to get most of the other NPCs from BG1 to BG2 if they are alive before you transitioned, but with the difference, that only the NPCs shown up in BG2 which you have had in your party. See the BGT readme which NPCs are included.

And an additional option is, to select other mods which brings the BG1 NPCs to BG2. But these are BG2 NPC mods and have nothing to do with it, if you transitioned with them or are they dead before. Here you should select carefully. E.g., if you install the BGT component to bring Kivan from BG1 to BG2 and do it and you have "Kivan and Deheriana Companions for BG2" installed, you will meet a second Kivan in the game...

Greetings Leomar

Edited by Leomar, 09 May 2009 - 07:28 PM.

[billymas2005]

BGT seems very interesting, and i would have tried it before, but TotSC was unavailable to me for some time, and i have finally been able to reaquire it. ANYWAYS, my question is this: WITH the BGT tweak pack, who will be imprisoned with you in Irenicus' dungeon when you transition from BG1 to BG2 SoA? I've read that whatever characters you had in your party will transfer over (although without extra banters) but will any of them have been captured with you? Also, if not, will Jaheira and Minsc start out in irenicus' dungeon even though you did not have them in your party at the end of BG1? I really do apologize if these seems excessive, but i've been searching (probably in the worng places anyways) and have yet to understand who will actually start in the dungeon.

Well, that's no one new, in a way...
Let's take an example party so you might get better idea what happen; The player plays the BG1 part using few NPCs, he takes Minsc, Viconia, Dynaheir, Khalid and another player created character from the the multiplayer using trick that everyone should know(swapping the save from the mpsave to the save folder) with him to the transition part, but also uses Jaheira but she accidentally died durring the adventure so she was removed from the party, Imoen but kicked her out too, and Edwin and few others.

Now, what happens to the party is that everyone leaves except the player created charactes, but as you remember Imoen comes to you after the dialog with Irenicus.
Now, Imoens stats and class will be exactly as they were in the original BG2:SoA start as
The the party meats Jaheira and Minsc, yes Jaheira is actually alive with the BG2:SoA stats and everything, Minsc, as he was in the party during the transition, has the exactly like he was at the end of BG1 part of the game(so if you made the character a Barbarian during the BG1 part of the game or with the Level1NPCs mod, he will be a Barbarian in the BG2 part too), he might have gained a few extra experience points but that's nothing new, but he doesn't have any armor or weapons or other items.
The recreated party will the move ahead with the BG2's start and should notice the Dynaheir, Khalid dead bodies in the first 2 dungeon levels, find Viconia at the stake, exactly as she was before the transition like Minsc, and also alike without any items.
Now there is a BGT Tweak component that brings more NPCs over to BG2, such as Kagain, these NPCs will be found during the play, most of them can join the party, but not all, like Faldorn that tries to kill the PC in the normal BG2 game. The NPCs do not have any extra content unless another mod adds that...

So,does this mean that some of the BG1/DSoTSC NPC will be wandering around Atkhatla,if u have installed the NPC transition?
I am asking this is because i am having of problem of looking for them as i am very very sure i have installed the transition of all BG1 NPC to my SoA game,but only those who join with me will stay at Irenicus dungeon,for those who not joined with me,will not appear at Amn,or did i missed out something?
If possible,are there any spoilers to provide as all the transitioned NPC's whereabouts around Amn?

[Jarno Mikkola]

That is a nice summary Jarno, just wondering where did you see Dynaheir's body?

At the 'second' level on the second room of the first dungeon in BG2 - SoA, if you have Minsc in the party, he'll note the fact when you get to the other side of the room...

So,does this mean that some of the BG1/DSoTSC NPC will be wandering around Atkhatla,if u have installed the NPC transition?
I am asking this is because i am having of problem of looking for them as i am very very sure i have installed the transition of all BG1 NPC to my SoA game,but only those who join with me will stay at Irenicus dungeon,for those who not joined with me,will not appear at Amn,or did i missed out something?
If possible,are there any spoilers to provide as all the transitioned NPC's whereabouts around Amn?

Import more NPCs into Shadow of Amn: From your choice of Alora, Branwen, Eldoth, Kagain, Kivan, Shar-teel, Skie, Xan, Yeslick, Dark Side of the Sword Coast joinable NPCs (if installed), and Northern Tales of the Sword Coast joinable NPCs (if installed), if the NPC is in the party and is not dead, then they will be imported into Shadows of Amn. Simple as that. However, some of them you will have to find... (this component is incompatible with The Darkest Day, Tortured Souls, and Never Ending Journey).

In here... That's all the info I have.