Hey all,
Seeing as I've never run through BG1 or BG2 just plain ol' vanilla, I was interested in doing that first (with a good party) and then maybe run through the BP-BGT pack after with an evil party to see the difference.
My question then is this:
What mods would you add to a plain vanilla install to maximize the experience, but not change it too drastically? I understand the BG2 Fixpack is something of a necessity, and I would like to go BGT, both for the improved BG1 experience and the continuity of the game. What else should I install? Is there a BG1 equivalent of the BG2 Fixpack, that fixes the bugs in BG1? Are there any cool kitpacks that offer new options in terms of character selection that don't unbalance the game? Are mods like Sword Coast Strategems too much of a change, or simply maximizing what Black Isle already has in place? Etc. etc. etc.
Thanks in advance.
Want to try a "pure" run through BG + BG 2
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Posted 30 January 2007 - 03:12 PM
If you want to stay true to the main plot, you'd best be only installing NPC mods that add NPCs to the game and their respective subplots.
If you want several major side plots, you probably should look into various "mega modifications"
If you want several major side plots, you probably should look into various "mega modifications"
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Posted 30 January 2007 - 03:35 PM
If you never played vanilla BG2, I'd advise you to install only BG2 fixpack (or maybe BGT also if you want) and play it=)
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Posted 30 January 2007 - 04:43 PM
If you never played vanilla BG2, I'd advise you to install only BG2 fixpack (or maybe BGT also if you want) and play it=)
Thanks, is there a BG1 equivalent to the BG2 fixpack that addresses the problems / bugs in BG1? I'd imagine I'd want to add that too, and then run BGT over both the fixpacks.
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Posted 30 January 2007 - 06:45 PM
Hmm I think BGT fixes some BG1 issues.
If you want though, you can install the Unfinished Business line of mods for both BG1 and BG2 to fix some more issues and expand on exisiting quests.
If you want though, you can install the Unfinished Business line of mods for both BG1 and BG2 to fix some more issues and expand on exisiting quests.
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Posted 30 January 2007 - 08:00 PM
BGT have to be installed on pure BG1, so its readme says.
And, if you don't want your game to be too easy, you might want to install Ding0 Experience Fixer, which can be found here: http://www.pocketplane.net/sim/
And, if you don't want your game to be too easy, you might want to install Ding0 Experience Fixer, which can be found here: http://www.pocketplane.net/sim/
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Posted 30 January 2007 - 11:11 PM
BGT has its own incorporated BG1 Fixpack written by Ascension64. No external fixpacks (Baldurdash/Dudleyville/ecc.) nor any other BG1 Mods can be installed at all. In the future, when the development of the BG1 Fixpack over at G3's has reached a certain maturity, it might be so that the BGT internal fixpack will be expanded.
Edited by Salk, 30 January 2007 - 11:12 PM.
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Posted 30 January 2007 - 11:59 PM
Just 2 cents from me:
go for BGT + fixpack.
Don't install NPC Project (as Oldveteran said) 'cause you're going to have problems in BG2 part of the game, unless you're ready to dig and solve manually some problems (with scripting, uninstalling mod, etc...)
I'd add SCS for BGT (but i didn't try it so i don't know if it's buggy), it's add more challange to the game without changing the story.
I'd also install BP to add more challenge in BG2 part of the game as well, but unfortunately Big Picture is really full of bugs ... so i won't suggest to install it unless you're ready to face some strange behaviour (dragons not attacking, wolves who speaks, just the first that comes to my mind but ... there are many actually 'cause it's still in beta stage).
Actually it seems that the current version of BGT has some little bugs (as snares and something minor), if u have i'd install 1.01 version (and not 1.01f) which i actually was playing and was free of bugs
mm75
go for BGT + fixpack.
Don't install NPC Project (as Oldveteran said) 'cause you're going to have problems in BG2 part of the game, unless you're ready to dig and solve manually some problems (with scripting, uninstalling mod, etc...)
I'd add SCS for BGT (but i didn't try it so i don't know if it's buggy), it's add more challange to the game without changing the story.
I'd also install BP to add more challenge in BG2 part of the game as well, but unfortunately Big Picture is really full of bugs ... so i won't suggest to install it unless you're ready to face some strange behaviour (dragons not attacking, wolves who speaks, just the first that comes to my mind but ... there are many actually 'cause it's still in beta stage).
Actually it seems that the current version of BGT has some little bugs (as snares and something minor), if u have i'd install 1.01 version (and not 1.01f) which i actually was playing and was free of bugs
mm75
Edited by melkor_morgoth75, 31 January 2007 - 12:00 AM.
Tired of the same boring spawned creatures u face in BG? Try BGSpawn
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Posted 31 January 2007 - 12:24 AM
What mods would you add to a plain vanilla install to maximize the experience, but not change it too drastically?
Don't install BGT in the first place. BG1 and BG1 via BGT/TUTU are two drastically different experiences: different engines, different rulesets, screen resolutions, avatars, and so on, and so forth.
Bear in mind that vanilla BG1 NPCs are "silent", while BG2 NPCs talk, comment on the game events, and some of them romance your character. If you want vanilla BG1 experience, I recommend leaving BG1 as is. If you want BG1 to be on BG2 level, install BGT/TUTU and BG1 NPC Project.
IWD NPC, Xan, The Sellswords, Back to Brynnlaw, Assassinations, Dungeon Crawl, Reunion, Branwen, Coran, Tiax, Xan BG1 Friendship
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Posted 31 January 2007 - 02:43 AM
Don't install NPC Project (as Oldveteran said) 'cause you're going to have problems in BG2 part of the game, unless you're ready to dig and solve manually some problems (with scripting, uninstalling mod, etc...)
The only problem it causes is the cutscene with Jaheira/Khalid not triggering properly in BG2 at the start, other than that its safe to use without conflicts, if your installation order is correct.
That bug will also be fixed in the next version of BG1NPC
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Posted 31 January 2007 - 02:47 AM
Bear in mind that vanilla BG1 NPCs are "silent", while BG2 NPCs talk, comment on the game events, and some of them romance your character. If you want vanilla BG1 experience, I recommend leaving BG1 as is. If you want BG1 to be on BG2 level, install BGT/TUTU and BG1 NPC Project.
I repeat myself .... don't install BG1 NPC Project on BGT, u won't be able to play BG2 part of the game without falling in BIG issues,
just an help,
mm75
Tired of the same boring spawned creatures u face in BG? Try BGSpawn
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Posted 31 January 2007 - 02:55 AM
The only problem it causes is the cutscene with Jaheira/Khalid not triggering properly in BG2 at the start, other than that its safe to use without conflicts, if your installation order is correct.
That bug will also be fixed in the next version of BG1NPC
Don't wanna go off-topic but ... areu sure it's the only bug? I've had many other, but i have to say i also had little modifications in the game.
mm75
Tired of the same boring spawned creatures u face in BG? Try BGSpawn
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Posted 31 January 2007 - 03:05 AM
I repeat myself .... don't install BG1 NPC Project on BGT, u won't be able to play BG2 part of the game without falling in BIG issues,
Please, contact the developers here at SHS, if you've been experiencing serious thoubles. I cannot give you qualified advice, save uninstalling BG1 NPC Project before the transition, but I am sure the folks who made BGT version can.
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Posted 31 January 2007 - 03:27 AM
There's an updated version of BG1NPC available with hopefully improved BGT compatibility, anyone interested in testing it - contact cmorgan either here or at G3 (see this post for more info). Note that it now requires BGT to be installed first before any other large mods like TS,TDD, etc.
To answer question about SCS in original post - SCS improves tactical challenges throughout the game, in many cases you will have to think carefully to win battles where you could use standard and well-established tactics previously. If you're certain you're going to replay the game afterwards, I'd recommend to try it on your second game - to really feel the difference.
To answer question about SCS in original post - SCS improves tactical challenges throughout the game, in many cases you will have to think carefully to win battles where you could use standard and well-established tactics previously. If you're certain you're going to replay the game afterwards, I'd recommend to try it on your second game - to really feel the difference.
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Posted 31 January 2007 - 10:40 AM
There's an updated version of BG1NPC available with hopefully improved BGT compatibility, anyone interested in testing it - contact cmorgan either here or at G3 (see this post for more info). Note that it now requires BGT to be installed first before any other large mods like TS,TDD, etc.
To answer question about SCS in original post - SCS improves tactical challenges throughout the game, in many cases you will have to think carefully to win battles where you could use standard and well-established tactics previously. If you're certain you're going to replay the game afterwards, I'd recommend to try it on your second game - to really feel the difference.
OK, so it sounds like to me that the mods to go for are BG2 Fixpack, BGT and SCS. What would the install order be for these? And what versions am I installing? Weidu? Sorry, still a bit new to all of this BG mod madness.
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Posted 31 January 2007 - 10:42 AM
Oh yes, and DingO's Experience Fixer, as I don't want to just breeze right through due to ramped up XP.
So, what order and versions for these:
BGT
SCS
Ding) Experience Fixer
SCS
Thanks again.
So, what order and versions for these:
BGT
SCS
Ding) Experience Fixer
SCS
Thanks again.
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Posted 31 January 2007 - 12:56 PM
Oh yes, and DingO's Experience Fixer, as I don't want to just breeze right through due to ramped up XP.
So, what order and versions for these:
BGT
SCS
Ding) Experience Fixer
SCS
Thanks again.
On top of your patched basic install
BG2 Fixpack v2
BGT v1.02f
SCSBGT v1.03
Ding0 Experience Fixer v3
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Posted 31 January 2007 - 03:30 PM
Oh yes, and DingO's Experience Fixer, as I don't want to just breeze right through due to ramped up XP.
So, what order and versions for these:
BGT
SCS
Ding) Experience Fixer
SCS
Thanks again.
On top of your patched basic install
BG2 Fixpack v2
BGT v1.02f
SCSBGT v1.03
Ding0 Experience Fixer v3
Thanks Ereb,
Is the thief snare issue resolved in that version of BGT, or should I install that as well? If so, where in the install?
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Posted 03 February 2007 - 12:48 PM
There's an updated version of BG1NPC available with hopefully improved BGT compatibility, anyone interested in testing it - contact cmorgan either here or at G3 (see this post for more info). Note that it now requires BGT to be installed first before any other large mods like TS,TDD, etc.
Pro5, I have the latest beta Pro5-2 but I did not read anyplace it that BGT was now supposed to go before the other big mods, so i followed the sticky install order (big mods first) then BGT1.02 and then BG1 NPC pack right after. I made changes to various files for compatability but from what you are saying will I have big problems with my current install order? So far so good but I am currently only in BG1. Let me know if you think this is a messed up order.
Why should BGT go before the big mods like TDD now?
// Log of Currently Installed WeiDU Mods
// The top of the file is the 'oldest' mod
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~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #3 // BETA Core Fixes (please check the readme!)
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~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #112 // Wizard Slayers Cause Miscast Magic on Ranged Attacks
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~SETUP-SCSBGT.TP2~ #0 #29 // Mages pre-cast defensive spells
~SETUP-SCSBGT.TP2~ #0 #32 // Smarter priests
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~SETUP-SCSBGT.TP2~ #0 #40 // Smarter basilisks
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~SETUP-SCSBGT.TP2~ #0 #42 // Tougher Black Talons and Iron Throne guards
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~SETUP-SCSBGT.TP2~ #0 #47 // Improved Demon Cultists
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~SETUP-SCSBGT.TP2~ #0 #50 // Tougher chapter-three end battle
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~SETUP-SCSBGT.TP2~ #0 #53 // Tougher chapter-six end battle
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~SETUP-SCSBGT.TP2~ #0 #58 // Stackable ankheg shells and winterwolf pelts
~SETUP-SCSBGT.TP2~ #0 #59 // Move Boo out of quick access and into Minsc's pack
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~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #0 // The BG1 NPC Project: Required Modifications for v12 Beta4, pro5-2
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~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #7 // The BG1 NPC Project: Add Non-Joinable NPC portraits to quests and dialogues
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~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #39 // Romance Timers -> Branwen's Romance Speed (extended: 1 hr 30 minutes)
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~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #55 // The BG1 NPC Project: Make Shar-Teel Unkillable until In Party
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #56 // The BG1 NPC Project: Bardic Reputation Adjustment
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~SETUP-AMBER.TP2~ #0 #0 // Amber the NPC MOD for BGII:SoA
~SETUP-VALEN.TP2~ #0 #0 // Valen
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~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #2 // Creature & Area Improvements -> All Creature Improvements
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #3 // Creature & Area Improvements -> Boss Improvements Only
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #4 // Alternative Harper/Xzar Plot
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #5 // Extended Reynald Sequence
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #6 // Intrigue In The Copper Coronet
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #7 // Rahul Kanakia's Potion Quest
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #8 // Revised Hell Trials
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #9 // Improved Oasis II -> IO2 Dialogue & Combat Enhancement
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #11 // Saving Sanik In Brynnlaw
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #12 // Burglary Of The Bookkeeper
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #13 // New Fate For The Dryads' Acorns
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #14 // The Tragedy Of Besamen
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #15 // Further Slaver Involvement
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #16 // Sending The Solamnic Knights Home
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #17 // Nazariel The Lich
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #18 // Reward Negotiation
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #19 // Infernal Thievery
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #0 // The Kidnapping of Boo by Cliffette
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #2 // Kalah and What He Was Promised
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #3 // "Cat and Mouse" (Bodhi hunts you in Spellhold) by Ghreyfain
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #4 // Gorje Hilldark and the Extended Illithium Quest
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #5 // The Pai'Na/Spider's Bane Quest
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #6 // Restored Crooked Crane Inn
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #7 // Restored Encounters
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #8 // Artemis Entreri in Bodhi's Lair
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #9 // Corrected "Xzar's Creations"
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #10 // Restored Hell Minions, by SimDing0
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #11 // Gorf the Squisher Fix, by Gebhard Blucher
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #12 // Item Restorations
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #13 // Yoshimo's Original Portrait
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #14 // Anomen's Original Portrait
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #15 // NPC Portrait Restorations
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #16 // Corrected BAMs and Scripts
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #17 // Corrected Character Names and Biographies
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #19 // Restored Bhaalspawn Powers, by David Gaider
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #20 // Extended ToB Item Descriptions
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #21 // Throne of Bhaal Minor Restorations
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #24 // Sarevok's Remorse
~SETUP-FR_ROV.TP2~ #0 #0 // Freedom's Reign (SoA or ToB)
~SETUP-FR_ROV.TP2~ #0 #1 // Reign of Virtue (ToB)
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #0 #0 // Big Picture AI/Enhancement Mod, version 177 weidu (beta)
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~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #0 #2 // Improved Spellhold
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #0 #3 // Wand of Orcus Add-In
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #0 #4 // Improved Small Teeth Pass, by Kensai Ryu
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #0 #5 // Improved Kangaxx Encounter, by Kensai Ryu
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #0 #6 // Kensai Ryu's Improved Crypt King
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #0 #7 // Kensai Ryu's Gnome Fighter/Illusionist in the Docks
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #0 #8 // Improved Random Encounters, by Gebhard Blucher and Kensai Ryu
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #0 #9 // Gebhard Blucher's Lich in the Docks
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #0 #10 // Red Badge, Poison-Based Encounter, by Westley Weimer
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #0 #11 // Kuroisan the Acid Kensai, by Westley Weimer
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #0 #12 // The Ritual, by Westley Weimer
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #0 #13 // Improved Xvart Village, for BGT-weidu
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #0 #15 // Ascension for BP
~SETUP-LONGERROAD.TP2~ #0 #0 // Longer Road v 1.5
~1PP/1PP.TP2~ #0 #0 // 1PP: Everything but Potions
~1PP/1PP.TP2~ #0 #1 // New Potion Graphics
~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #0 // Sensible weapon restrictions for MODS
~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #2 // Unique weapons (bolas and katars)
~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #4 // Wizard Slayer kit MR bonus (8% + 4%/level)
~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #12 // New Armour (Scale, Banded, and Field Plate)
~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #14 // Sensible weapon restrictions for SoA (non-mod weapons)
~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #15 // Sensible weapon restrictions for ToB (non-mod weapons)
~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #18 // SoA Viconia's new proficiencies (Crossbow, Flail, Single-weapon Style, Scimitar, and Short Sword)] [Requires Sensible Weapons for SoA
~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #19 // ToB Viconia's new proficiencies (Crossbow, Flail, Single-weapon Style, Scimitar, and Short Sword)] [Requires Sensible Weapons for ToB
~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #20 // SoA Keldorn's new proficiencies (Crossbow becomes Spear)] [Requires Sensible Items for SoA
~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #21 // ToB Keldorn's new proficiencies (Crossbow becomes Spear)] [Requires Sensible Items for ToB
~SETUP-D0TWEAK.TP2~ #0 #0 // Enhanced Goodberries
~SETUP-D0TWEAK.TP2~ #0 #4 // Tweaked Weapon Enchantments
~SETUP-D0TWEAK.TP2~ #0 #5 // Additional Racial Enemies
~SETUP-D0TWEAK.TP2~ #0 #17 // Sensible Lore Table
~SETUP-BPV177-TOBFIX.TP2~ #0 #0 // BPv177 TOB Trigger Fix
~SETUP-BGTTWEAK.TP2~ #0 #0 // Eldoth reminds of Skie's ransom
~SETUP-BGTTWEAK.TP2~ #0 #1 // Angelo notices Shar-teel
~SETUP-BGTTWEAK.TP2~ #0 #4 // Major locations explored upon visit
~SETUP-BGTTWEAK.TP2~ #0 #5 // Druid/Ranger-responsive bears in BG1
~SETUP-BGTTWEAK.TP2~ #0 #9 // Random activated traps in the pirate cave -> Game-time randomisation
~SETUP-BGTTWEAK.TP2~ #0 #10 // Bags of the Sword Coast
~SETUP-BGTTWEAK.TP2~ #0 #11 // Altered spawns -> TuTu-style levelled spawns
~SETUP-BGTTWEAK.TP2~ #0 #13 // Arkion reacts to player's reputation
~SETUP-BGTTWEAK.TP2~ #0 #15 // More bandit scalps
~SETUP-BGTTWEAK.TP2~ #0 #17 // Hooded unarmoured mages and thieves
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #40 // Change Viconia's Skin Color to Dark Blue
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #60 // Weapon Animation Tweaks
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #70 // Icewind Dale Casting Graphics (Andyr)
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #110 // Icon Improvements
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #120 // Change Avatar When Wearing Robes or Armor (Galactygon)
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #130 // Force All Dialogue to Pause Game
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1010 // More Interjections
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1020 // Alter HP Triggers for NPC Wounded Dialogues
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1070 // Improved Kick-out Dialogues
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1080 // Add Bags of Holding
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1090 // Exotic Item Pack
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1120 // Stores Sell Higher Stacks of Items
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1130 // Reputation Resets in BG2 (BGT Only)
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1150 // Shapeshifter Rebalancing
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1160 // Multiple Strongholds (Baldurdash)
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2100 // Allow Thieving and Stealth in Heavy Armor
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2110 // Alter Item Descriptions for 'Stealth and Thieving Abilities in Heavy Armor' Component
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2120 // Allow Arcane Spellcasting in Heavy Armor
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2130 // Alter Item Descriptions for 'Allow Arcane Spellcasting in Armor' Component
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2140 // Expanded Dual-Class Options
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2151 // Wear Multiple Protection Items -> No Restrictions
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2160 // Alter Weapon Proficiency System -> Rebalanced Weapon Proficiencies
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2192 // Limit Ability of Storekeepers to Identify Items -> Hybrid of Both Methods
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2200 // Multi-Class Grand Mastery (Weimer)
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3030 // Easy Spell Learning -> 100% Learn Spells
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3040 // Make Bags of Holding Bottomless
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3050 // Remove fatigue from restoration spells
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3060 // Remove "You Must Gather Your Party..." Sound (Weimer)
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3080 // Unlimited Ammo Stacking
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3090 // Unlimited Gem and Jewelry Stacking
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3100 // Unlimited Potion Stacking
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3110 // Unlimited Scroll Stacking
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3170 // No Drow Avatars On Party In Underdark
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3179 // Romance Cheats -> No Racial Requirements for Romance
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3200 // Sellable Staffs, Clubs, and Slings (Icelus)
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4000 // Adjust Evil joinable NPC reaction rolls
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4010 // Improved Fate Spirit Summoning
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4050 // Change Jaheira to Neutral Good
~SETUP-BPSERIES.TP2~ #0 #0 // BPSeries v3
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #22 // Justifier Kit
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #23 // Feralan Kit
~DIVINE_REMIX/SETUP-DIVINE_REMIX.TP2~ #0 #0 // Divine Remix Core Components (Required for Everything)
~DIVINE_REMIX/SETUP-DIVINE_REMIX.TP2~ #0 #100 // Cleric Remix
~DIVINE_REMIX/SETUP-DIVINE_REMIX.TP2~ #0 #103 // Install Silverstar of Selune Cleric Kit
~DIVINE_REMIX/SETUP-DIVINE_REMIX.TP2~ #0 #106 // Install Nightcloak of Shar Cleric Kit
~DIVINE_REMIX/SETUP-DIVINE_REMIX.TP2~ #0 #109 // Install Battleguard of Tempus Cleric Kit
~DIVINE_REMIX/SETUP-DIVINE_REMIX.TP2~ #0 #115 // Install Firewalker of Kossuth Cleric Kit
~DIVINE_REMIX/SETUP-DIVINE_REMIX.TP2~ #0 #118 // Install Authlim of Iyachtu Xvim Cleric Kit
~DIVINE_REMIX/SETUP-DIVINE_REMIX.TP2~ #0 #124 // Install Heartwarder of Sune Cleric Kit
~DIVINE_REMIX/SETUP-DIVINE_REMIX.TP2~ #0 #127 // Install Feywarden of Corellon Cleric Kit
~DIVINE_REMIX/SETUP-DIVINE_REMIX.TP2~ #0 #130 // Install Strifeleader of Cyric Cleric Kit
~DIVINE_REMIX/SETUP-DIVINE_REMIX.TP2~ #0 #200 // Druid Remix
~DIVINE_REMIX/SETUP-DIVINE_REMIX.TP2~ #0 #203 // Install Oozemaster Druid kit
~DIVINE_REMIX/SETUP-DIVINE_REMIX.TP2~ #0 #403 // Install Bowslinger Ranger Kit
~DIVINE_REMIX/SETUP-DIVINE_REMIX.TP2~ #0 #409 // Install Forest Runner Ranger Kit
~DIVINE_REMIX/SETUP-DIVINE_REMIX.TP2~ #0 #415 // Install Wilderness Runner Ranger Kit
~DIVINE_REMIX/SETUP-DIVINE_REMIX.TP2~ #0 #600 // Install Battleguard of Tempus Kit for Branwen
~DIVINE_REMIX/SETUP-DIVINE_REMIX.TP2~ #0 #610 // Install Nightcloak of Shar Kit for Viconia
~SETUP-SPSTUFF.TP2~ #0 #1 // Blade Master Kit, by Drizzt1180
~SETUP-SPSTUFF.TP2~ #0 #2 // Death Knight Kit, by Drizzt1180
~SETUP-SPSTUFF.TP2~ #0 #3 // Wushi Ninja Kit, by Drizzt1180
~POFKITS/SETUP-POFKITS.TP2~ #0 #4 // Install Militarist kit (paladin)
~POFKITS/SETUP-POFKITS.TP2~ #0 #5 // Install Zealot kit (paladin)
~POFKITS/SETUP-POFKITS.TP2~ #0 #6 // Install Medician kit (paladin)
~POFKITS/SETUP-POFKITS.TP2~ #0 #17 // Install Hivemaster kit (druid)
~POFKITS/SETUP-POFKITS.TP2~ #0 #18 // Install Blighter kit (druid)
~SETUP-OVERSIGHT.TP2~ #0 #2 // Class Tweaks/Fixes
~SETUP-OVERSIGHT.TP2~ #0 #3 // Altered Spells
~SETUP-OVERSIGHT.TP2~ #0 #7 // Holy Liberator
~SETUP-REFINEMENTS.TP2~ #0 #10 // Revised High Level Abilities
~SETUP-REFINEMENTS.TP2~ #0 #20 // "SwashImoen" -> "SwashImoen", full revision (suggested)
~SETUP-REFINEMENTS.TP2~ #0 #30 // Shapeshifting fix -> Heal on shifting back to human (Default)
~SETUP-REFINEMENTS.TP2~ #0 #40 // Universal lesser mage robes
~SETUP-REFINEMENTS.TP2~ #0 #73 // Revised Armors & Shields. -> Update the descriptions.
~SETUP-DRUIDICSORCERERKIT.TP2~ #0 #0 // DruidicSorcererKit v1.9
~SETUP-RPG-KP.TP2~ #0 #0 // Kitpack Component - Soldier Kit
~SETUP-RPG-KP.TP2~ #0 #1 // Kitpack Component - Wizardslayer Enhancements
~SETUP-RPG-KP.TP2~ #0 #2 // Kitpack Component - Ice Knight
~SETUP-RPG-KP.TP2~ #0 #4 // Kitpack Component - Wild Jester: bard kit
~SETUP-RPG-KP.TP2~ #0 #10 // Kitpack Component - Hellion
~SETUP-SONG_AND_SILENCE.TP2~ #0 #0 // Changes to trueclass bards and thieves, and unmodded game kits (required for other components)
~SETUP-SONG_AND_SILENCE.TP2~ #0 #1 // Add new bardic store and thief items
~SETUP-SONG_AND_SILENCE.TP2~ #0 #2 // Install Acrobat bard kit
~SETUP-SONG_AND_SILENCE.TP2~ #0 #3 // Install Chorister bard kit
~SETUP-SONG_AND_SILENCE.TP2~ #0 #4 // Install Dirgesinger bard kit
~SETUP-SONG_AND_SILENCE.TP2~ #0 #5 // Install Gypsy bard kit
~SETUP-SONG_AND_SILENCE.TP2~ #0 #6 // Install Adventurer thief kit
~SETUP-SONG_AND_SILENCE.TP2~ #0 #7 // Install Burglar thief kit
~SETUP-SONG_AND_SILENCE.TP2~ #0 #8 // Install Soulknife thief kit
~SETUP-SONG_AND_SILENCE.TP2~ #0 #9 // Install Sharpshooter thief kit
~SWORD_AND_FIST/SETUP-SWORD_AND_FIST.TP2~ #0 #1 // Monk Remix
~SWORD_AND_FIST/SETUP-SWORD_AND_FIST.TP2~ #0 #30 // Install Hexblade fighter kit
~SWORD_AND_FIST/SETUP-SWORD_AND_FIST.TP2~ #0 #31 // Install Duelist fighter kit
~SWORD_AND_FIST/SETUP-SWORD_AND_FIST.TP2~ #0 #32 // Install Fist of Order fighter kit
~SWORD_AND_FIST/SETUP-SWORD_AND_FIST.TP2~ #0 #33 // Install Blackguard fighter kit
~SETUP-XPMOD.TP2~ #0 #0 // Creature XP Reduction -> Reduce to 75%
~SETUP-XPMOD.TP2~ #0 #9 // Locks, Traps and Spells XP Reduction -> Reduce to 10%
~SETUP-XPMOD.TP2~ #0 #10 // No XP for learning spells
~SETUP-XPMOD.TP2~ #0 #12 // Quest XP Reduction -> Reduce to 50%
~SETUP-BP-BGT-WORLDMAP.TP2~ #0 #0 // Revised worldmap for the Baldur's Gate - including coloured Baldur's Gate map icons -> Installing new Worldmap for use with Mega Modification...
~SETUP-BP-BGT-WORLDMAP.TP2~ #0 #1 // --> This component is OPTIONAL <-- Revised Area Visibility and Travel Times for BG1 Genre Mods & SoA/TOB + BP Family Mods...
~SETUP-BP-BGT-WORLDMAP.TP2~ #0 #3 // Use new worldmap for Throne of Bhaal as well
~SETUP-GUI.TP2~ #0 #8 // Game Graphical User Interface (GUI) -> "Baldur's Gate Trilogy" (Elminster wielding staff)"
~SETUP-GUI.TP2~ #0 #5 // "Tortured Souls" - just nice in-game Fonts
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Posted 03 February 2007 - 02:03 PM
You will have the same problems as in previous version, I'm afraid.
This install order with BGT first is needed to ensure BG1NPC always changes correct dialog states. V12-Beta had errors (regardless of install order) in dialog state numbers so that BG2 dialog states or mod-added states were changed instead of BGT ones.
I've discussed the possibilities of removing this install order requirement with cmorgan, but we decided it's too much effort for nothing, because: a) it's very complex thing to do; b) BGT will still work perfectly no matter if it's installed before or after TDD (or other BP family mods).
I mentioned this in the current stickied Erebusant's install thread, here, but I guess it's not easy to find now, sorry.
This install order with BGT first is needed to ensure BG1NPC always changes correct dialog states. V12-Beta had errors (regardless of install order) in dialog state numbers so that BG2 dialog states or mod-added states were changed instead of BGT ones.
I've discussed the possibilities of removing this install order requirement with cmorgan, but we decided it's too much effort for nothing, because: a) it's very complex thing to do; b) BGT will still work perfectly no matter if it's installed before or after TDD (or other BP family mods).
I mentioned this in the current stickied Erebusant's install thread, here, but I guess it's not easy to find now, sorry.
