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[Miraz]

Every dragon I meet in the game is attacking me, but not turning hostile. The Shadow Dragon was the first I noticed to do this, but I just slipped round the side and avoided it. Firkraag is turning out to be a bit more of a problem in this respect. And I don't want to think what'll happen when I meet Avalon.

The moment I run into them, they cast an acid arrow at me and then wade in with melee attacks. No wing buffets or other combat moves. I'm thinking one of the mods I installed messed with the scripting for dragons ... Deeper Shadows of Amn by Kensai Ryu jumps out at me immediately because of all the dragon related content:

~SETUP-DSOA.TP2~ #0 #0 // Kensai Ryu's Deeper Shadows of Amn v2.2
~SETUP-DSOA.TP2~ #0 #1 // Difficult Brown Dragon
~SETUP-DSOA.TP2~ #0 #2 // Improved Copper Coronet
~SETUP-DSOA.TP2~ #0 #3 // Improved Crypt King
~SETUP-DSOA.TP2~ #0 #4 // Ghost Shadow Dragon
~SETUP-DSOA.TP2~ #0 #5 // Gnome Fighter/Illusionist Encounter
~SETUP-DSOA.TP2~ #0 #6 // Grothgar the Red Dragon
~SETUP-DSOA.TP2~ #0 #7 // Improved Kangaxx
~SETUP-DSOA.TP2~ #0 #8 // Curse of the Underground Shade Lord

Just wondering if anyone can confirm this, or knows of a way to manually edit the scripting for dragons so that this doesn't happen. I don't want to try uninstalling DSoA unless I both know it's the problem, and know it won't mess anything up.

[NiGHTMARE]

I believe those are all new dragons, so I don't see why they should affect existing dragons.

I suggest posting your entire weidu.log here.

[Miraz]

// Log of Currently Installed WeiDU Mods
// The top of the file is the 'oldest' mod
// ~TP2_File~ #language_number #component_number // [Subcomponent Name -> ] Component Name
~SETUP-BD-TOB.TP2~ #0 #0 // Baldurdash Fix Pack for ToB, v1.5 WeiDU
~SETUP-BD-TOB.TP2~ #0 #1 // Textupdatepack -> Baldurdash English Text Update Pack for ToB, v1.4 WeiDU
~SETUP-SOS.TP2~ #0 #0 // Shadows Over Soubar, v1.11
~SETUP-TDD.TP2~ #0 #0 // The Darkest Day, v1.11
~SETUP-TDD.TP2~ #0 #1 // TDD Character Kits
~SETUP-CTB.TP2~ #0 #0 // Check The Bodies, v1.8
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #0 #0 // Big Picture AI/Enhancement Mod, version 177 weidu (beta)
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #0 #1 // Improved Suldanessallar
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #0 #2 // Improved Spellhold
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #0 #3 // Wand of Orcus Add-In
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #0 #4 // Improved Small Teeth Pass, by Kensai Ryu
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #0 #5 // Improved Kangaxx Encounter, by Kensai Ryu
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #0 #6 // Kensai Ryu's Improved Crypt King
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #0 #7 // Kensai Ryu's Gnome Fighter/Illusionist in the Docks
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #0 #8 // Improved Random Encounters, by Gebhard Blucher and Kensai Ryu
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #0 #9 // Gebhard Blucher's Lich in the Docks
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #0 #10 // Red Badge, Poison-Based Encounter, by Westley Weimer
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #0 #11 // Kuroisan the Acid Kensai, by Westley Weimer
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #0 #12 // The Ritual, by Westley Weimer
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #0 #15 // Ascension for BP
~SETUP-AMBER.TP2~ #0 #0 // Amber the NPC MOD for BGII:SoA
~SETUP-FADE.TP2~ #0 #0 // Fade: An NPC for Baldur's Gate II
~SETUP-DSOA.TP2~ #0 #0 // Kensai Ryu's Deeper Shadows of Amn v2.2
~SETUP-DSOA.TP2~ #0 #1 // Difficult Brown Dragon
~SETUP-DSOA.TP2~ #0 #2 // Improved Copper Coronet
~SETUP-DSOA.TP2~ #0 #3 // Improved Crypt King
~SETUP-DSOA.TP2~ #0 #4 // Ghost Shadow Dragon
~SETUP-DSOA.TP2~ #0 #5 // Gnome Fighter/Illusionist Encounter
~SETUP-DSOA.TP2~ #0 #6 // Grothgar the Red Dragon
~SETUP-DSOA.TP2~ #0 #7 // Improved Kangaxx
~SETUP-DSOA.TP2~ #0 #8 // Curse of the Underground Shade Lord
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #0 // The Kidnapping of Boo by Cliffette
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #1 // The Suna Seni/Valygar Relationship
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #2 // Kalah and What He Was Promised
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #3 // "Cat and Mouse" (Bodhi hunts you in Spellhold) by Ghreyfain
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #4 // Gorje Hilldark and the Extended Illithium Quest
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #5 // The Pai'Na/Spider's Bane Quest
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #6 // Restored Crooked Crane Inn
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #7 // Restored Encounters
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #8 // Artemis Entreri in Bodhi's Lair
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #9 // Corrected "Xzar's Creations"
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #10 // Restored Hell Minions, by SimDing0
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #11 // Gorf the Squisher Fix, by Gebhard Blucher
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #12 // Item Restorations
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #16 // Corrected BAMs and Scripts
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #17 // Corrected Character Names and Biographies
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #18 // Restored Minor Dialogs
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #19 // Restored Bhaalspawn Powers, by David Gaider
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #20 // Extended ToB Item Descriptions
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #21 // Throne of Bhaal Minor Restorations
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #22 // Justifier Kit
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #23 // Feralan Kit
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #24 // Sarevok's Remorse
~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3 // Change Magically Created Weapons to Zero Weight
~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #6 // Make +x/+y Weapons Consistent
~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #7 // English Only: Description Updates for Make +x/+y Weapons Consistent Component
~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #46 // Avatar Morphing Script
~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #49 // Weapon Animation Tweaks
~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #64 // Icon Improvements
~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #94 // Use Valen/Solaufein Style Interjections
~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #97 // Alter HP Triggers for NPC Wounded Dialogues
~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #106 // Universal Clubs
~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #107 // English Only: Description Updates for Universal Clubs Component
~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #110 // Weapon Styles for All
~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #116 // Improved Athkatlan City Guard
~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #119 // Druids Use Cleric Level and Spell Progression
~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #133 // Allow Arcane Spellcasting in Armor
~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #134 // English Only: Alter Item Descriptions for 'Allow Arcane Spellcasting in Armor' Component
~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #152 // Sellable Staffs, Clubs, and Slings (Icelus)
~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #155 // PnP-Style Protection Items
~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #181 // Higher HP on Level Up -> NWN Style
~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #191 // 100% Learn Spells
~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #200 // PnP Spell Progression Tables
~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #221 // Improved Fate Spirit Summoning
~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #224 // ToB-Style NPCs
~SETUP-IMPASYLUM.TP2~ #0 #0 // Improved Asylum Mod for BG2:ToB
~SETUP-IMPASYLUM.TP2~ #0 #1 // Spellhold Lich
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1010 // More Interjections
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1160 // Multiple Strongholds (Baldurdash)
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1180 // Female Edwina
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3150 // Turn Off The Hideous Cloak-of-Mirroring and Spell-Trap Animation
~SETUP-DUNGEONBEGONE.TP2~ #0 #0 // Dungeon Be Gone V1.4
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #3 // Creature & Area Improvements -> Boss Improvements Only
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #4 // Alternative Harper/Xzar Plot
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #5 // Extended Reynald Sequence
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #6 // Intrigue In The Copper Coronet
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #7 // Rahul Kanakia's Potion Quest
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #8 // Revised Hell Trials
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #9 // Improved Oasis II -> IO2 Dialogue & Combat Enhancement
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #11 // Saving Sanik In Brynnlaw
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #12 // Burglary Of The Bookkeeper
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #13 // New Fate For The Dryads' Acorns
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #14 // The Tragedy Of Besamen
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #15 // Further Slaver Involvement
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #16 // Sending The Solamnic Knights Home
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #17 // Nazariel The Lich
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #18 // Reward Negotiation
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #19 // Infernal Thievery
~SETUP-XPMOD.TP2~ #0 #0 // Creature XP Reduction -> Reduce to 75%
~SETUP-XPMOD.TP2~ #0 #9 // Quest XP Reduction -> Reduce to 75%
~SETUP-XPMOD.TP2~ #0 #6 // Locks, Traps and Spells XP Reduction -> Reduce to 25%
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #13 // Yoshimo's Original Portrait

Edited by Miraz, 07 August 2006 - 05:08 AM.

[GeN1e]

I've got the same problem with Firkraag and SD. The BP's scripts seem to be not perfect. And not only with dragons but beholders, planetars and others as well. A pity but I can think about two ways here:
1) don't install BP at all (bad choice I think - especially with cool comments from monsters);
2) spend time and make changes.



What can these kits do with dragon's scripts?

Edited by GeN1e, 07 August 2006 - 05:32 AM.

[GeN1e]

most probably nothing, i just informed him that he might have some problems later in game, maybe if he accepts to party some npcs from tdd, their kits might be corrupted, but im not sure, i just know that you cant install new kits over tdd, without prior removal of tdd kits

I had more than 9 kits for some classes and got no problems. When creating new game they were unavaliable but SKeeper can add them after start.

Edited by GeN1e, 07 August 2006 - 05:43 AM.

[NiGHTMARE]

I doubt it's causing the problem you're experiencing, but some of the DSOA components you've installed are the same as some of the BPV177 components (e.g. Improved Kangaxx, Improved Crypt King, and Gnome Fighter/Illusionist in the Docks), which may lead to other issues in your game.

[GeN1e]

I have got bugged dragons with TDD+SOS+TS+CTB+UB+BP.
Also I've seen somewhere that such scripting was to eliminate cheat tactics from player, but result have made impossible peaceful talking with beasts as well.

[zachD]

Had same thing on my basic BP install.

BP + TS + TDD + SoS

Firkraag seemed especially *buggy*

[Miraz]

Logic would suggest we're looking at something in TDD or SOS.

[maximus2001]

Logic would suggest we're looking at something in TDD or SOS.

On my last install NEJ/SOS/TDD/TS and Bp176 I had the same problem with Firkraag and the Shadow dragon-stayed blue but attacked. I had to talk to Firkraag and get pelted at the same time. I also had KR ghost shadow dragon and brown dragon (druid grove), but they went red and attacked right away(normal behavior I suppose )

[seanas]

DSOA and BP are compatible (or at least - to the best of my knowledge). dragons attacking whilst staying blue is an artifact of BP's anti-cheese scripts; it's on the list of things to fix for the next release.

[melkor_morgoth75]

I only fought the green dragon in BG1 part (from Dark Side of the Sword Coast) and it was fine ... has it a different behaviour from his Bg2 "mates"?

mm75

[seanas]

I only fought the green dragon in BG1 part (from Dark Side of the Sword Coast) and it was fine ... has it a different behaviour from his Bg2 "mates"?

yep - the dodgy dragon behaviour is only affecting Firkraag and the Shadow Dragon, and it's due to their specific anti-cheese scripting; it's not caused by a generic 'dragon' script.

[melkor_morgoth75]

Thanks seanas for your fast reply ... is there anything i (we) can do to avoid such "dragon behaviour"? I mean ... something to chnage in their scripts?

thanks,

mm75

[NiGHTMARE]

DSOA and BP are compatible (or at least - to the best of my knowledge).

Though as I mentioned, installing both the DSoA and BP versions of the same components probably isn't a good idea (just as installing both the Tactics and BP versions of the same components isn't recommended). It might be an idea to have BP detect whether the DSoA versions are present, and take the appropriate action if they are.

Edited by NiGHTMARE, 08 August 2006 - 03:51 AM.

[seanas]

It might be an idea to have BP detect whether the DSoA versions are present, and take the appropriate action if they are.

true true. altho for the case in question, we'd need to edit DSOA to detect BP still, good suggestion anyways, NiGHTMARE.

[pro5]

Thanks seanas for your fast reply ... is there anything i (we) can do to avoid such "dragon behaviour"? I mean ... something to chnage in their scripts?

thanks,

mm75

I would also like to know.

[GeN1e]

I've removed blocks which are responsible for attacking neutral PC - 2 from Firkraag's script and 3 from SD's.


There shouldn't be problems - I've tested both scripts and evrth was fine.

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Edited by GeN1e, 08 August 2006 - 10:30 AM.