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[Wardibald]

Heya,

Allow me to introduce myself,

New member (first post)
Playing BP-BGT
Tried it once before, more than a year ago
Liking it very much

Now that that's out of the way, I've got a question; prolly busted something in my install.
I've installed according to the readme: "BP_Mega_Install_Instructions_070506.doc"
Haven't installed CtB, BG1NPC, and a few minor optional components.
I have to say that it's become much easier to install this monster, but I can be quite the classic fool in the "universe and programmers" joke at times.

Up until now, the few bugs I encountered were documented, or at least mentioned before:
Ulcaster school - nej-problem
"destination unreachable" bug in forest of lost souls (or something)
Buggy boo

At this point I'm at the flaming fist headquarters, but there's no "stairs up" icon up to duke Eltan. There's nothing I can find about that in various readmes or walkthroughs.
I'm in Chapter 6, I've done the seven suns quest for scar, and he's given me the sewer quest. Done the SoBH, and DSotSC quests without problems.

So is this normal, or am I hosed?

Edit: Sorry, just thought I'd post this in a bug report/problems thread. Do with my post what is deemed necessary.
Edit2:
Just found out it's perfectly normal. Scar is supposed to take me to the duke.
Thanks for moving my post. <changing topic title>

This means that (for now) this thread's use is limited to following message:

Hi

Edited by Wardibald, 03 August 2006 - 06:32 AM.

[Wardibald]

Hey again,

Seems I have run into a major issue. Upon completing the first part of NeJ (entering Irenicus' dungeon again), a number of consecutive problems arise. Among other things, a number of events appear in double:

*After exiting the portal to meet yoshimo, 2 instances of him come to greet me. The second one initiates dialogue as if met before.
*After exiting the dungeon, the cutscene that follows also has everything in doubles: Imoen, Irenicus, cowled wizards,.. . After the cutscene ended, one instance of Imoen, one Jon, and lots of wizards remain. (I had to ditch Imoen before exiting Jons dungeon to pick up Drizzt and Kachiko)
*All chapter narratives are played at fast pace (causing a high-pitched narrator voice). Actually quite funny
*I have been unable to save my game from since I took the portal from Kuldahar. I exited Waukeens promenade to have an autosave, but even in the slums I cannot save.

Apart from that, everything seems to be working(for as far as I know). All dialogues that were supposed to happen, did happen. The game plot advanced upon entering the slums, talking to Gaelan,..

I cannot assume something this obvious hasn't been reported yet, were it a mod conflict, so I assume the problem happened during my install.

Note: as per thread title, I am a BG player, and I must excuse myself for not having a lot of knowledge on changing variables and that sort of thing. Messing with these things seems a bit to me like opening Pandora's box.
So far, I like these mods a lot, and I'm happy with my role as mod-player (hey, someone has to do it )

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[seanas]

*After exiting the portal to meet yoshimo, 2 instances of him come to greet me. The second one initiates dialogue as if met before.
*After exiting the dungeon, the cutscene that follows also has everything in doubles: Imoen, Irenicus, cowled wizards,.. . After the cutscene ended, one instance of Imoen, one Jon, and lots of wizards remain. (I had to ditch Imoen before exiting Jons dungeon to pick up Drizzt and Kachiko)

the first is a known issue when NEJ2 and TS-BP are installed; i'm guessing the second is related to that. except...

*All chapter narratives are played at fast pace (causing a high-pitched narrator voice). Actually quite funny
*I have been unable to save my game from since I took the portal from Kuldahar. I exited Waukeens promenade to have an autosave, but even in the slums I cannot save.

cool! i've never seen the speed up chapter narrative reported before. that's a brand new error - congratulations! the second is a very bad sign: it seems as tho something is trying to happen, but for whatever reason it can't... and so no saves are possible. given the other errors you've had (ie: things that shouldn't happen, such as Ulcaster unreachable. forest of souls unreachable, etc) my guess is yr install is hosed. the question is whether it's more hosed than yr willing to put up with.

[maximus2001]

Hey again,

Seems I have run into a major issue. Upon completing the first part of NeJ (entering Irenicus' dungeon again), a number of consecutive problems arise. Among other things, a number of events appear in double:

*After exiting the portal to meet yoshimo, 2 instances of him come to greet me. The second one initiates dialogue as if met before.

*After exiting the dungeon, the cutscene that follows also has everything in doubles: Imoen, Irenicus, cowled wizards,.. . After the cutscene ended, one instance of Imoen, one Jon, and lots of wizards remain. (I had to ditch Imoen before exiting Jons dungeon to pick up Drizzt and Kachiko)

*I have been unable to save my game from since I took the portal from Kuldahar. I exited Waukeens promenade to have an autosave, but even in the slums I cannot save.

Well most of these happened to me, and this is what I did:
1)2 yoshimos. Let them both join and kick out the 1st one. (On BP forums) With all the characters in NEJ/ROT/TS you have to make choices who you keep as well. I had to CLUA around to pick up characters who were abandoned in now unreachable areas. (Drizzt,Minsc,etc.)

2 + 3)The doubling of everybody right outside dungeon is from ROT. Check the ROT forum under buglist title(its pinned). I had to download NI(Near Infinity) and fix a few things in Baldur.bcs in your BG directory. Follow the directions and you should be alright, but you have to load a save from before you went to second level and met yoshi. (It was a problem with the cutscenes running and then you couldn't save ANYWHERE!) Its not that hard to do though, even I muddled through the fix.

4)In my game I couldn't get Drizzt because I had left Wulfgar in Easthaven with Minsc, no room in party. I have to check and see if he is joinable (after picking up Wulf again). If you have some other variation and don't have room for Kachiko you have tell Yoshi you don't want to hold him up, apologize to Kachiko for not letting her join, and they should both leave for the Sea's Bounty in the docks where you can pick em up again.

Good luck.

P.S.I think the Higher Level Abilities from Refinements might cancel out lev 50 ruleset. Better double check forums.

edited by seanas to fix the unclosed quote.

Edited by seanas, 09 August 2006 - 01:48 AM.

[Chevalier]

*All chapter narratives are played at fast pace (causing a high-pitched narrator voice). Actually quite funny

I had this happen just once when testing NeJ2. We were unable repeate it.

[Wardibald]

I had this happen just once when testing NeJ2. We were unable repeate it.

The second time I tried, I didn't take Drizzt along. Everything happened the same, except for the fast paced narrative.

the second is a very bad sign: it seems as tho something is trying to happen, but for whatever reason it can't... and so no saves are possible. given the other errors you've had (ie: things that shouldn't happen, such as Ulcaster unreachable. forest of souls unreachable, etc) my guess is yr install is hosed. the question is whether it's more hosed than yr willing to put up with.

Wasn't the Ulcaster thing, and the worldmap bug a known issue? It's mentioned in this thread:
http://www.shsforums...showtopic=21326
For the record, I also had the described animation bug.

I guess the first thing I'm going to try to resolve is the savegame problem, as I cannot put up with that.

2 + 3)The doubling of everybody right outside dungeon is from ROT. Check the ROT forum under buglist title(its pinned). I had to download NI(Near Infinity) and fix a few things in Baldur.bcs in your BG directory. Follow the directions and you should be alright, but you have to load a save from before you went to second level and met yoshi. (It was a problem with the cutscenes running and then you couldn't save ANYWHERE!) Its not that hard to do though, even I muddled through the fix.

P.S.I think the Higher Level Abilities from Refinements might cancel out lev 50 ruleset. Better double check forums.

I'll check the RoT forum and see what I can do.

As I understood it, the lvl50 ruleset had a fix to work with refinements. It was something with editing a few things, and overwriting a file with the same G3 tutu tweaks-file, which is why I installed those. I'm not sure I did that correctly, eg. the "druid uses cleric progression" (at least for Jaheira) is not working.
Still have a long way to go before I reach lvl50, though.

Anyway, thanks to all for replying. I'll post again after trying that RoT fix thing.

Edit:
Did the NI fix for RoT, and everything seems resolved. Well, except for the double Yoshimo but that wasn't really too much of a problem.

Thanks for the help guys

Edited by Wardibald, 09 August 2006 - 06:22 AM.

[Wardibald]

G'day to all,

Another issue has come up. For all I know, it might be related to the previous one. I've been browsing the forum on this one, but I've been unable to use the search button(search request just times out constantly, and after a (small) bit of hammering I gave up). So I'll just ask away.

The main issue seems to be with Kachiko, during the second part of NeJ2 (Halruua). She is my only mage, so she's rather important at this point.

*When agreeing after Hrothgar asks to go to Ulcaster, K has a wrong banter (the TS start dialogue "cast the spell Saemon"). It cuts short the rest of the dialog, preventing (I think) automatic travel to Ulcaster.
Worked around by clua to UA, before this dialogue can happen.

*Then, when meeting Tilorn, at the end of the first dialog, it's basically the same thing. Which causes Tilorn not to give the Halruuan robes, and no further dialog with him is possible.
In the attempt to work around this, I tried kicking out K & Y and asked them to remain where they were. The first time, this worked perfectly: I recieved 6 robes, and asked them to join again, which worked without problems.
Yet, after reloading the situation where K & Y were standing outside of party, the rejoin botched.
-when addressing K first, Y didn't join, and no longer engaged in dialog.
-when addressing Y first, K seems to constantly try to address Y, but something cannot kick in, causing her to be unplayable.
Eventually simply worked around that, by just placing K far out of reach when addressing Tilorn. Worked like a charm.

*Now I am in Halruua, where another issue arises(or prolly the same issue pushed forward). When trying to do the specialist tests, I get a CtD when selecting the "K is ready" dialog option.
I wonder now what I'm going to try to work around this one(other than simply not doing these subquests, though it may just come to that), but I figured it was time to report the issue.

K still correctly engages in banters with Y, so at least not everything is broken

Any thoughts on this one?


PS. Sorry if this is a known and posted issue, as I said, the search button isn't working.

[maximus2001]

Its good you were able to solve a few problems. The savegame thing was a game-killer, I was forced to fix it.

I had some funny dialogue with Hrothgar in Halruaa, he would talk about "we can't help Leina" when he should talk about main wizard plot. It didn't affect me finishing the quest though. As long as you get the quest/instructions from the main people it should work.

The search button error seems to happen to me a lot if my search has too many words or is searching too many forums. Try looking in just IE games, or making subject smaller. Sometimes search just says there are too many people connected, blah , blah, and try again...

To avoid some associated problems with other mods, I would recommend doing NEJ2 pretty soon after NEJ1 for plot continuity and to avoid being forced to go there at an awkward time.

I'm suprised you were able to get Kachiko to take the test. I've been there a few times and only one of the mages lets Nalia (or whichever mage with me) do it. Maybe I missed something, err? (Had to SK main char to mage to do spell subquests).

Edited by maximus2001, 10 August 2006 - 08:34 AM.

[Wardibald]

I wouldn't say "able to get Kachiko to take the test".
Maybe I'll just lay off those subquests. Can't have 'em all.

Haven't started the Halruua main quest yet, I have been busy with the ROM. I'll post if I experience similar stuff.

As for the search button thing, I usually narrow the search down to strict minima. One word, one forum. Sometimes it works, sometimes not. Oh well..

Anyway, thanks for that savegame fix. It was a lifesaver indeed.