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[T.G.Maestro]

Is it possible to add extra Racial Enemies to Rangers by an ability (as in IWD2 for example)?

[Avenger_teambg]

No.

[T.G.Maestro]

Sounds great.

[NiGHTMARE]

You could apply a spell with the THAC0 vs. Creature Type Modifier [178] effect. Of course, the creature would obviously have to be chosen via the dialogue window.

[T.G.Maestro]

Um, not really what I had in mind, but thanks for the idea.
To be honest I never really liked the "dialogue" option, it makes it look completely out of place. If I'd ever make it I'd do it in a submenu (Spell-Immuity) method, as discussed in the Refinements forum yesterday.

[NiGHTMARE]

The only thing Racial Enemy does is improve your THAC0 vs. a certain enemy type, so surely it's exactly what you had in mind?

[T.G.Maestro]

Hehe, no, I meant that I would like to avoid the dialogue option - thats the part I don't have in mind.

[NiGHTMARE]

Wait... you can have spells besides Enchanted Weapon and Spell Immunity call up menus which are referenced to 2DAs? This could solve a lot of problems .

Just have the spell activated in this menu set a flag, and almost anything is possible (within normal scripting limits of course )!

[hlidskialf]

Wait... you can have spells besides Enchanted Weapon and Spell Immunity call up menus which are referenced to 2DAs? This could solve a lot of problems .

Just have the spell activated in this menu set a flag, and almost anything is possible (within normal scripting limits of course )!

Hell ya'. Effect #214 I believe.

[T.G.Maestro]

Wait... you can have spells besides Enchanted Weapon and Spell Immunity call up menus which are referenced to 2DAs? This could solve a lot of problems

Man, you SURELY haven't even tried Refinements...

[NiGHTMARE]

Is there a way to prevent the same thing being chosen more than once? I mean, with your racial enemies for example, it'd get rather unbalancing if you could end up with -48 THAC0 vs. demons .

I know you could do something like the following:

IF
        Class(Player1,RANGER_ALL)
        Global("RacialEnemiesLevel5","GLOBAL",0)
THEN
        RESPONSE #100
        SetGlobal("RacialEnemiesLevel5","GLOBAL",1)
        ReallyForceSpellRES("MORE_NME",Player1)
END


"MORE_NME" comes up with the submenu containing the various racial enemy options.  Each option casts a spell that increments (not changes) a relevant global (e.g. "RacialEnemy_Orc", "RacialEnemy_Drow", etc) by 1.

IF 
        Global("RacialEnemy_Orc","GLOBAL",1)
THEN
        RESPONSE #100
        SetGlobal("RacialEnemy_Orc","GLOBAL",2)
        SetGlobal("RacialEnemiesLevel5","GLOBAL",2)
        ReallyForceSpellRES("EN_ORC",Player1)
END

IF 
        Global("RacialEnemy_Orc","GLOBAL",3)
THEN
        RESPONSE #100
        SetGlobal("RacialEnemy_Orc","GLOBAL",2)
        SetGlobal("RacialEnemiesLevel5","GLOBAL",0)
END

"EN_ORC"  gives +4 THAC0 vs. Orcs, other "EN_xxx" spells do the same for their relevant creature(s).

However, while the above should work (thereotically at least, since the above wasn't tested ), it would be better if an option didn't appear at all if you'd already chosen it.

[NiGHTMARE]

I take it the answer is "no"?

[T.G.Maestro]

ooops, I nearly forgot about this topic!

As for your question NiGHTMARE, I agree with you that the best method would be to somehow disable the option to choose the same bonus again.

Yet, I think it would be better to make the EXISTING bonuses better via script. I mean, the starting -4 THAC0 bonus could be upgraded to -4 THAC0, -2 AC and +2 to saves vs. the creature specified by the ability.
I'm not sure if this is possible though.

[Andyr]

Is this topic about Rangers having mutliple racial enemies, or just adding to the list selected from? If the latter, I think someone did it just by appending the 2DA.

[NiGHTMARE]

The former .

IIRC the "someone" was Sim, but I could be wrong.

[Andyr]

Aha, ignore me then.

And yes, now you mention it I think it could have been Sim...

[igi]

You can add values to the .2da, and they are selectable in-game.
However, you cannot set/add a racial enemy from within the game (other than in Ranger character generation).

As for stopping 1 spell being picked from a list multple-times, you could set an immunity to that spell when it is selected. Or, if you want to get complex, when a spell is selected, add some bonus or whatever, they remove the original spell, and replace it with one that calls a different .2da, with the selected spell removed - you'll need lots of spells and .2da files, and a good memory though

[SimDing0]

Was me, yes.